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2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« on: Sep 29th, 2008, 7:48am »
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I am planning to have a get together for Arimaa players on Saturday Oct 11 at Brekenridge Park near Dallas, TX. It will be from 11am to whenever. Pizza, punch and snacks will be provided. Myself, Aamir, Karl, Naveed, and Arif plan to attend. I would love to meet some of the other players in person also. So if you are free that weekend and Dallas isn't too much of a drive for you, plan on attending. The main event will be a team vs team Arimaa game. We had a great time at the last get together and I hope this time will be even more fun.
 
Here is the exact location:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.986897,-96.62430 8&spn=0.001255,0.002449&t=h&z=19
 
The weather in Dallas is really great this time of the year.
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #1 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 8:49am »
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Are you planning to keep game records?
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #2 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 1:37pm »
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Omar, what about your daughters and soldier and silump?  I don't think I will be able to convince Elmo to play unless the kids are playing too.
 
Some of the rest of you may be interested in Omar's team concept.  For our last Arimaa-in-the-park festival there were some two-player teams that didn't work out so well, because the stronger player just dominated the decision-making process, making it boring for the weaker player.  The idea of the new team game would be to allow people of different levels to all participate meaningfully.  Tentative rules:
 
1. The game is played on a master board that no one on either team can see except for each team's currently designated representative.  In addition, each team will have a private board for analysis and discussion in locations where they can't spy on each other.
 
2. Each team has a captain.  For each move the team captain selects which player will represent the team for that move.  No player can be team representative for the (N+1) time until all players on the team have been team representative N times.
 
3. When the Gold team representative is ready to move, s/he calls on the Silver team to select a new representative.  The Silver representative comes to the board, hopefully prepared by team discussion, but not yet knowing what move s/he will face.  The Gold team representative makes a move.  After that, the Silver representative can't leave the board or communicate with her/his team until after s/he has made a move.  To discourage cheating, the Silver team shouldn't even know the Gold team's last move.  While the Silver representative is thinking, the Gold representative can update her/his team as to what the current position is.  When the Silver team representative is ready to move s/he calls on the Gold team to select a new representative, and so on.
 
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The point of temporarily isolating the representative from the rest of the team is to prevent the best team member from dictating moves.  Instead, the team will have to explain to the representative what is going on in the position so that the representative can react properly to whatever move is played.  Judging from the Mob game, it will be very hard to guess the other team's moves even one ply in advance, so it won't work to say "If he plays A, do B, but if he plays C, do D, etc."  Hopefully discussing general strategy will be the only way the team can help the weaker members.
 
Indeed, given that the difference between a good move and a great move is much smaller than the difference between a good move and a bad move, the game will very likely be decided by the play of the weakest members of each team.  Therefore good team strategy should be all about helping the weaker players understand basic issues, and not at all about fine strategic points and precise variations.
 
That's the theory, anyway.  We'll see how it works. Smiley
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #3 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 10:43pm »
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Oh, it goes without saying that the kids are going to come. In fact ever since the last event they've been asking me when we're going to have the next one.
 
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #4 on: Oct 9th, 2008, 2:25pm »
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Hello just wanting to make sure I can't really tell by the link that you gave but which entrence are you talking A,B, or C? Huh
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 9th, 2008, 4:09pm »
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It's entrance C. You will see the pavilions as soon as you enter.
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #6 on: Oct 11th, 2008, 4:10pm »
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Just got back from the Arimaa Festival and uploaded the photos. We had a great time. You can check it out at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20979381@N02/sets/72157607946215991/
 
The Team-Team game worked out pretty good. It kept everyone involved and actively discussing their plans. The only bad part was that we had a lot of problem with the wind blowing over the pieces on the gold team planning board. Many thanks to Karl for using his picture perfect memory for recreating the position from memory. Next time it might be better to do this indoor. We also learned that it would be better for each team to keep two boards; one as the master and the other for planning.  Also we did not have a clock to track the time per move; that would have helped to keep the game moving faster.
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #7 on: Oct 11th, 2008, 4:35pm »
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For the curious, the teams were as follows:
 
Gold
 omar (captain)
 zaidq
 Sana
 Aamir
 BilalQ
 silump5
 
Silver
 naveed (captain)
 ArifSyed
 Amina
 soldier
 hamzahq
 Sameer (substituted for ArifSyed's last move)
 
I was the referee.  Below is the score of the game, with the names of the players who made each move withheld to protect the innocent.  Some day there will be a facility to enter games into the main database so that they can be linked just by number, but for now if you want to replay the hilarious fun, you will have to cut and paste it into the plan window.
 
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/planGame.cgi
 
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #8 on: Oct 12th, 2008, 10:00am »
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on Oct 11th, 2008, 4:10pm, omar wrote:
Just got back from the Arimaa Festival and uploaded the photos. We had a great time. You can check it out at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20979381@N02/sets/72157607946215991/

 
Nice, looks like everyone had fun. Wish I were closer.
 
I'll blow the surprise here but for everyone that hasn't taken a look through the pictures you're missing out on a sneak preview of the prototype new game pieces. Do remember the word prototype though.
 
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #9 on: Oct 12th, 2008, 10:41am »
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It's really hard to identify them, but I'm guessing that those are, from left to right, a silver elephant, rabbit, cat, camel, dog and horse.
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #10 on: Oct 12th, 2008, 2:22pm »
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Omar, could you post a close-up photo of the prototypes? We are anxious to see them in detail.
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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #11 on: Oct 12th, 2008, 7:09pm »
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on Oct 12th, 2008, 10:41am, aaaa wrote:
It's really hard to identify them, but I'm guessing that those are, from left to right, a silver elephant, rabbit, cat, camel, dog and horse.

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Re: 2008 Arimaa Festival; You are invited
« Reply #12 on: Oct 13th, 2008, 8:24am »
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Gold was the winner!  Yay!
 
Gold is one of my favorite teams.
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