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Recurring bot problem
« on: Sep 11th, 2005, 12:17am »
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Omar,
 
Just now grey_0x2A played Arimaazilla in game 19354.  Arimaazilla lost on time, and didn't come back for another game.  Also the game doesn't show up in the recent games list, and doesn't show up in the commented games list even after being commented by grey_0x2A and myself.
 
I think this exact thing has happened before, although I haven't verified all the details until now.  Do you have any idea what is causing this behavior?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 3:19am »
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Fritzlein I believe that to appear in the game list you have to have played a minimum number of moves, maybe 5. It looks like it's voluntary.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 14th, 2005, 11:32am »
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The game is still there, but since it was less than 5 moves, it does not appear in the list as Arimanator mentioned.
 
 
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 15th, 2005, 7:25am »
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I've played 2 games against bot_bomb2005Fast in the past, 24 hours ago and 48 hours ago, respectively.  I won both games, once with silver, the other time with gold.  Unfortunately, there's no record of yesterday's game at all and I can't remember the game ID#
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 15th, 2005, 9:28am »
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on Sep 15th, 2005, 7:25am, Adanac wrote:
I've played 2 games against bot_bomb2005Fast in the past, 24 hours ago and 48 hours ago, respectively.  I won both games, once with silver, the other time with gold.  Unfortunately, there's no record of yesterday's game at all and I can't remember the game ID#

 
Unfortunately, I believe those games are lost forever, I have at least 6 or 7 games like that won against different bots and that never appeared on the game list, we'd better declare water under the bridge on these ones.
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Re: Recurring bot problem
« Reply #5 on: Sep 15th, 2005, 10:26am »
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on Sep 14th, 2005, 11:32am, omar wrote:
The game is still there, but since it was less than 5 moves, it does not appear in the list as Arimanator mentioned.

 
OK, that explains why the game did not appear in the recent games list.  But why did Arimaazilla disappear after this game and not re-login for another?  I guess it isn't a big deal to figure that out, because you can periodically log in to the server and manually start any bots that are AWOL.  Thanks for all your hard work maintaining the server!
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 17th, 2005, 9:19am »
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OK, I just played a 39-move game against Belbo, and it isn't showing up in the recent games list, so the 5-move cutoff doesn't explain this glitch.  Perhaps it has something to do with him losing on time.  Perhaps it is also related to the symptom that I didn't have an asterisk by my own name in the game display despite being seated.
 
I can see the game through the "My Finished Games" link: it is number 19653.  
 
Oh, and Arimaazilla is AWOL again after losing to JDB on time, although that game (19640) does show in the recent games list.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 17th, 2005, 1:50pm »
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on Sep 17th, 2005, 9:19am, Fritzlein wrote:
OK, I just played a 39-move game against Belbo, and it isn't showing up in the recent games list, so the 5-move cutoff doesn't explain this glitch.  Perhaps it has something to do with him losing on time.  Perhaps it is also related to the symptom that I didn't have an asterisk by my own name in the game display despite being seated.
 
I can see the game through the "My Finished Games" link: it is number 19653.  
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Fritzlein, I believe I can explain this, the clock of the room has been readjusted roughfly while you were playing against Belbo, which means that the game actually appears on the list but 12 hours back in time, the clock is now in sync with the real time, as far as I can tell. So this was just a necessary side effect of the correction of a wider problem.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 17th, 2005, 9:16pm »
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Ah, thank you Arimanator.  I can see the game now among the recent games.  I had always assumed the games were sorted by id#, but I guess they are actually sorted by time of completion.  You have a sharp eye!
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 18th, 2005, 2:38am »
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on Sep 15th, 2005, 7:25am, Adanac wrote:
I've played 2 games against bot_bomb2005Fast in the past, 24 hours ago and 48 hours ago, respectively.  I won both games, once with silver, the other time with gold.  Unfortunately, there's no record of yesterday's game at all and I can't remember the game ID#

 
I was not able to find any of your lost games. Here's what I see from around this time:
 
26457: Adanac bot_loc2005blitz wg 52 [Mon Sep 12 05:01:23 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19397
 
26458: Adanac bot_gnobot2005blitz wg 62 [Mon Sep 12 05:33:23 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19399
 
26460: bot_gnobot2005blitz Adanac bg 25 [Mon Sep 12 06:07:52 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19400
 
26509: bot_bomb2005fast Adanac bg 41 [Tue Sep 13 00:54:51 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19420
 
26548: Adanac bot_Bomb2005Fast   [Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970 GMT]  
Not stored; less than 2 moves
 
26652: Fritzlein Adanac wg 33 [Thu Sep 15 13:29:09 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19532
 
26688: Adanac bot_bomb2005blitz bg 40 [Thu Sep 15 23:28:53 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19551
 
26690: bot_bomb2005blitz Adanac wg 36 [Thu Sep 15 23:49:48 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19553
 
26747: bot_bomb2005blitz Adanac wt 34 [Fri Sep 16 12:40:07 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19602
 
26748: Adanac bot_bomb2005blitz wg 45 [Fri Sep 16 12:59:00 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19603
 
26749: Adanac bot_bomb2005blitz wg 38 [Fri Sep 16 13:19:43 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19605
 
26752: bot_bomb2005blitz Adanac bg 65 [Fri Sep 16 13:43:25 2005 GMT]  
Stored as: 19607
 
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Re: Recurring bot problem
« Reply #10 on: Sep 18th, 2005, 2:40am »
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on Sep 15th, 2005, 10:26am, Fritzlein wrote:

OK, that explains why the game did not appear in the recent games list.  But why did Arimaazilla disappear after this game and not re-login for another?

 
Not sure yet what's wrong with Arimaazilla after the move. I'll check into soon.
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 18th, 2005, 2:48am »
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on Sep 17th, 2005, 1:50pm, Arimanator wrote:

 
Fritzlein, I believe I can explain this, the clock of the room has been readjusted roughfly while you were playing against Belbo, which means that the game actually appears on the list but 12 hours back in time, the clock is now in sync with the real time, as far as I can tell. So this was just a necessary side effect of the correction of a wider problem.

 
Im running a NTP deamon on the new server (instead of a cron job which updated once an hour on the old server). But I noticed that it had stopped yesterday and restarted it. I didn't realize that the time had skewed so much. I better be careful not to restart it if there are games in progress.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 19th, 2005, 9:25am »
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Fixed the problem with Arimaazilla getting stuck. A sleep command was getting a negitive value. On the old system it returned right away; on the new system a negitive value causes it to sleep forever Smiley
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