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Endgame Study 5, Lessons Learned
« on: Nov 30th, 2006, 6:27pm »
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Using the tournament ruleset, who wins the following position and in how many moves?    
   
1w Rf2 Cf8  
1b dg6 re7  
 
     
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Re: Endgame Study 5, Lessons Learned
« Reply #1 on: Dec 6th, 2006, 11:34am »
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I tried for a while, but can't find a way for gold to win.  I guess I haven't learned my lesson.
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Re: Endgame Study 5, Lessons Learned
« Reply #2 on: Dec 6th, 2006, 11:40am »
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It appears the study's creator hasn't learned his lesson either... Embarassed
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Re: Endgame Study 5, Lessons Learned
« Reply #3 on: Dec 12th, 2006, 3:50pm »
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I don't see any way for gold either, so I'd say silver wins ... guess it's wrong Smiley
 
I fail to see any other sensible move for gold than :
- Cf8w R to g4 or to e4 where unfreezing the rabbit to e5 seems to win quickly for silver
- push the r to d7 and Rf2e where silver pulls the Cat to f7
-push the r to e8 and Rf2w but silver pushes the Cat on e6
-push the r to e6 or f7 but silver pulls the Cat towards the trap.
 
So ... what do I miss ?Smiley
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Re: Endgame Study 5, Lessons Learned
« Reply #4 on: Dec 12th, 2006, 6:09pm »
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Yes, silver wins. My apologies, I made a mistake checking a repetition in the position.
 
The endgame studies are on break until after the deadline for the bot tournament, so I can work on clueless.
 
The tablebase generator is currently building DCRer on my old computer. Best guess looks like it will be done sometime in the middle of January.
 
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Re: Endgame Study 5, Lessons Learned
« Reply #5 on: Dec 12th, 2006, 8:31pm »
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on Dec 12th, 2006, 6:09pm, jdb wrote:
The tablebase generator is currently building DCRer on my old computer.

 
Cool, then we'll finally get the answer to this position
 
on Apr 20th, 2005, 3:55pm, jdb wrote:

1w Ra1 Cd1 Ce1
1b ra8 ed8
2w pass

Which I thought was a draw no matter who moves first, Omar thought was a win for Gold no matter who moves first, and you thought was a win for Silver no matter who moves first.  20 months is not such a long time to wait in suspense.
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