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what does handicap mean?
« on: Jan 24th, 2010, 10:43pm »
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What does the following line mean?
 
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While top Arimaa programs have already achieved relatively high level of play, still top
human players are able to defeat them even with big handicaps (e.g. giving the handicap
of a dog, a horse, or even a camel).
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Basically I want to know about handicap in Arimaa.
 
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 24th, 2010, 11:25pm »
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it means that when you start the match you sacrifice your own pieces on the first move and thereby give the opponent an advantage for the rest of the game
 
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 1:43am »
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http://arimaa.com/arimaa/twiki/bin/view/Arimaa/BotBashers
 
here you can see plenty of examples including handicaps that did not involve suiciding your own pieces but other self-restrictions.
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 2:39am »
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on Jan 24th, 2010, 11:25pm, Tuks wrote:
it means that when you start the match you sacrifice your own pieces on the first move and thereby give the opponent an advantage for the rest of the game
 

 
 
'on the first move' is confusing to me.  
 
A. Is it the case that one player starts the game with fewer animals than the other?
 
or
 
B. Both starts the game with equal number of animals but one player sacrifices his some animals in first few moves by throwing them to traps?
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 2:55am »
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its B, each player starts with all pieces and one kills his own in the near by trap squares
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 3:39am »
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on Jan 25th, 2010, 2:39am, asfaklive wrote:
A. Is it the case that one player starts the game with fewer animals than the other?

We would rather do A than B, because that would be a more pure form of the handicap, but it is not technically feasible with the interface we have.  Adding the ability to give pure handicaps hasn't been the most urgent feature for Omar to add to the interface.
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 10:12am »
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on Jan 24th, 2010, 10:43pm, asfaklive wrote:

 
Basically I want to know about handicap in Arimaa.
 

Or you could play with a camel that has only one hump.
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 25th, 2010, 7:20pm »
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on Jan 25th, 2010, 10:12am, RonWeasley wrote:

Or you could play with a camel that has only one hump.

 
 
So the average arimaa camel is a Bactrian Camel  (camel with two humps) rather than a Dromedary (camel with one hump)?
 
 
(Yes I know my question is stupid and off topic)
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Re: what does handicap mean?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 26th, 2010, 2:41pm »
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on Jan 25th, 2010, 7:20pm, Eltripas wrote:

 
 
So the average arimaa camel is a Bactrian Camel  (camel with two humps) rather than a Dromedary (camel with one hump)?
 
 
(Yes I know my question is stupid and off topic)

Silly me! I thought it referred to the camel's sexual habit. Grin
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