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(Message started by: Fritzlein on Apr 4th, 2009, 2:17pm)
Title: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Fritzlein on Apr 4th, 2009, 2:17pm

on 04/04/09 at 13:23:27, Tuks wrote:
i was thinking about blitz arimaa, how hard would it be to set up a blitz tournament kind of set up like this to find out how the rankings change at such speeds.

It would obviously be just as easy/hard as the Continuous Tournament itself.  However, until Omar makes the scheduler a generally usable tool, only one tournament can run at a time.  Furthermore, I'm the only one besides Omar who currently has access to the scheduler, and I won't be running any tournaments until my book is finally finished.  Sorry!  Please pester Omar for a tournament manager tool like ToMaTo on the Internet Chess Club.

That said, I encourage you to start a blitz tournament without the scheduler.  We have done so before:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=talk;action=display;num=1112302914

As you can see from that thread, we never finished.  Without a scheduler, you can't force the players to find a common time, and you can't forfeit the player who doesn't show up.  Nevertheless, maybe the people who sign up for your blitz tournament may be more committed than the group we had four years ago.  And even if not all of the games finish, you can have a lot of fun!

I wouldn't sign up for the tournament, but I'm sure that if you organize it, naveed will play.  Any others?
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Eltripas on Apr 4th, 2009, 4:06pm
I would play
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 4th, 2009, 11:49pm
ok, i might just do that, but it will have to be next week, im going to England for 5 days for vacation, anyone interested please post
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by chessandgo on Apr 5th, 2009, 1:42am
I'm interested too (after the challenge is over), nice idea guys.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 5th, 2009, 3:09am
i was thinking about and i think, because we dont have a scheduler, we can make it a round robin which is easier to organize

Each Player plays every other participant twice

no need for preset times, just challenge whenever you see someone online(we might introduce preset times around the end to make sure it finishes)

One match gold, one match silver

each person has to agree that its a Tourney game before and after it starts (i expect integrity)

The time setting is the simple "blitz" time in gameroom

All results need to be posted in forum so i can update Table

invite anyone who doesn't know about it

*Modify April 19

Tiebreakers are determined by the two players scores against one another

-if it remains a tie still then the person with a lower total amount of moves in all of their wins will take the better position

*Modify April 20

Tournament Games against Bots must be announced (a post in chat or forum telling me that the following game will count) Otherwise, they will be considered practice
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 5th, 2009, 3:10am
Participants:

Chessandgo (when challenge ends)
Tuks
Eltripas
Omar (when challenge ends)
Tize
Bot_Marwin
Woh
Naveed
Arimaabuff (in three weeks)
Clueless (When available)
Simon
Hanzack

Results (until i can start posting a table on wiki):

Tuks (Silver) vs Eltripas (Gold) 1-0 goal in 42
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by omar on Apr 5th, 2009, 7:01am
Count me in, but preferably after the challenge match.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by tize on Apr 6th, 2009, 7:44am
I'm in.

Marwin wants to play too, is that ok with you?
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 6th, 2009, 9:44am
lol, thats fine, should be interesting, see if he can get a win!
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by woh on Apr 6th, 2009, 9:51am
Tuks.

I would like to join the blitz tournament.

Thanks for setting this up!
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 6th, 2009, 10:36am
no problem, it just casual thing, not much to work out  ;)
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 12th, 2009, 5:40am
ok, im back from england, when does everyone want this thing to start? it doesnt really matter to me as long as we have a decent amount of participants
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by naveed on Apr 13th, 2009, 12:49pm
Count me in to. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by jdb on Apr 14th, 2009, 9:49am
clueless will play, but after the challenge is over,

I want to let it run a couple days at blitz speed to test out janzert's interface before any games count, to prevent any unfortunate problems.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 14th, 2009, 11:24am
Brilliant!

The Tournament is officially started!

People can still join though, if there are any late starters

Whenever you put Clueless online is fine, seeing as other players wont be starting for a couple of weeks

ill update a Score Board whenever people post (both players) of a finished game (In Wiki)
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Arimabuff on Apr 14th, 2009, 12:47pm
As I said in the chatroom, I will join this tournament if I can play my first game in about three weeks. (give or take a couple of days)
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Simon on Apr 14th, 2009, 1:08pm
I'll join as long as it doesn't start until May.

I think I suck at blitz, but joining this is probably the best cure for that.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by hanzack on Apr 17th, 2009, 9:56pm
Hi, all. I want to participate in it . :)
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Eltripas on Apr 18th, 2009, 4:01pm

on 04/05/09 at 03:09:03, Tuks wrote:
each person has to agree that its a Tourney game before and after it starts


What about the bots?
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Janzert on Apr 18th, 2009, 5:01pm
I had thought about this before in the context of the CT and wanting to let OpFor's opponent play whenever was convenient but still forcing them to decide before the game that it would count for the tournament.

My thought then was to say that the player needed to post something in either chat or the forum before starting the game that the game they were about to play would count for the tournament. Then anyone can compare the timestamp on the post and the start of the game to make sure the decision was made before the game began.

Janzert
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Apr 18th, 2009, 11:47pm
sounds good
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on May 13th, 2009, 8:06am
Ok guys, im done with Exams, well at least the time consuming ones so i think its time to make this tournament progress So...

Starting on Friday, all blitz games between participants will be counted, (the first ones as gold and as silver)
no more practice!
and could you put Bot_CluelessBlitz online jdb, and Marwin Tize?
not the test versions
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by tize on May 14th, 2009, 3:40am
Marwin will not be avaliable all the time, but I'll try to keep him up for play as much as possible.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by jdb on May 14th, 2009, 6:35am
My computer is busy for a few days. I'll put clueless up after its done.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on May 14th, 2009, 8:03am
thats fine, thanks for the quick responses
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Arimabuff on May 16th, 2009, 12:24pm
The game 106176 is part of the tournament.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on May 16th, 2009, 11:32pm
updated
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by jdb on May 20th, 2009, 5:27pm
My computer is free, so bot_clueless is available. To avoid confusion, the first game with each colour will count as the tournament game.
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Arimabuff on May 20th, 2009, 10:03pm

on 05/20/09 at 17:27:05, jdb wrote:
My computer is free, so bot_clueless is available. To avoid confusion, the first game with each colour will count as the tournament game.

That makes game 106659 the first one against clueless of the tournament.  ;)
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Arimabuff on May 20th, 2009, 11:41pm
I only lost the second one because my connection failed twice and I had to play instantly!  I won the two games that followed!
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on May 21st, 2009, 6:04am
ok, ill change it
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by tize on May 23rd, 2009, 1:21am
Game 106756    Marwin vs me
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by tize on May 25th, 2009, 1:16am
Marwin has played a few games with Omar.

I don't know what the policy on timeout victories are but at least the first game should count, because Marwin was ahead in that game. (106853)

Game 107009 and 107011 me vs Clueless.
Title: ; Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by woh on May 30th, 2009, 3:38am
Game 107478 : woh vs clueless
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by omar on Jun 3rd, 2009, 3:33pm
106649 omar vs bot_clueless won by bot_clueless on time
106982 bot_clueless vs omar won by bot_clueless on time

106853 bot_marwin vs omar won by bot_marwin on time
106854 omar vs bot_marwin won by bot_marwin on time
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Jun 4th, 2009, 6:38am
i already filled in your four losses but im not sure if they are the ones you indicated here
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by woh on Jun 13th, 2009, 12:15am
Game 108760 : woh vs marwin
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by tize on Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:17am
Game 109594    me vs Marwin

Game 107124    Tuks vs me

Also Marwin hasn't played against Woh as gold in the tournament (the game is linked to a game with Arimabuff), and Marwin vs me should be game 106756.

Game 109598   Clueless vs Marwin
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Jun 22nd, 2009, 9:56am
computer broke down so ill fix everything when i get a chance
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by woh on Jul 11th, 2009, 9:43am
Game 110711: clueless - woh
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Jul 11th, 2009, 9:55am
just got a new computer! which is great, now i dont need to share time with anyone
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by Tuks on Jul 22nd, 2009, 2:22am
woh, thats the wrong clueless, thats 2009 champ blitz, weaker i believe
Title: Re: 2009 blitz tournament?
Post by omar on Jul 28th, 2009, 7:37am

on 07/11/09 at 09:55:59, Tuks wrote:
just got a new computer! which is great, now i dont need to share time with anyone


Cool. It's always exciting to get a new system; what are the specs.


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