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(Message started by: Nombril on Jan 25th, 2011, 7:21am)
Title: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Nombril on Jan 25th, 2011, 7:21am
For games that need to be rescheduled after Tuesday 19:00 EST, please have both players post here.  This will help make sure the rescheduling request gets noticed.   I will be helping with this minor admin task for the remaining rounds, so updates times should be noticed 2x sooner with 2x people being able to do it.   ;)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by RonWeasley on Jan 25th, 2011, 7:51am
Thanks, Nombril.  It will be easy for me to monitor this.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by omar on Jan 28th, 2011, 9:24am
Something unexpected came up and I am not able to play on Saturday. I have discussed it with hanzack and we have moved the game to 24 hours later.

Karl was going to give commentary on our game, but now since the time has changed, he might not be able to. Especially since it is at the same time as the Nevermind - woh game which he was also going to commentate on.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 28th, 2011, 10:52am

on 01/28/11 at 09:24:16, omar wrote:
Karl was going to give commentary on our game, but now since the time has changed, he might not be able to. Especially since it is at the same time as the Nevermind - woh game which he was also going to commentate on.

So I have to choose, eh?  I guess I have already given commentary on a Nevermind game this tournament, so I will stick with commentating your game against hanzack.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Hippo on Feb 1st, 2011, 3:32am
We have mutually agreed reschedule to game slot 19 with chessandgo.


on 02/01/11 at 03:32:32, chessandgo wrote:
EDIT: cool, he beat me to it :)

One little win :)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by chessandgo on Feb 1st, 2011, 3:32am
With Hippo, we would like to reschedule our game to Thursday 7pm CET, ie 22 hours earlier. I'll let Hippo confirm it here though.

EDIT: cool, he beat me to it :)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Nombril on Feb 1st, 2011, 7:31am
For time changes agreed to by both players before Tuesday night (US EST), just update your scheduler to have that slot the only #1 for both of you.  Omar will run the scheduler a second time to catch any changes that are agreed on in the first 24 hours.  (If I manually change it now, it will just be reverted back to the original time tonight!)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Hippo on Feb 1st, 2011, 8:15am
I have already done and informed chessandgo (prior to writing the previous post), I was not sure it should be noted here in the forum as well.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by omar on Feb 1st, 2011, 11:35am
Thanks for mentioning that Eric. You beat me to it :-)

Vladan, changes agreed with your opponent in the first 24 hours do not need to be posted here.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by chessandgo on Feb 1st, 2011, 11:59am
oops thanks, I always forget that we don't need to announce the change. Cool, sorry for bothering you :)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 1st, 2011, 10:55pm

on 02/01/11 at 03:32:32, chessandgo wrote:
With Hippo, we would like to reschedule our game to Thursday 7pm CET, ie 22 hours earlier.

Rats, that means I can no longer commentate that game.  Hopefully it works out for me to commentate woh vs. ChrisB or ArifSyed vs. ocmiente.  Otherwise I might only be able to commentate on one game of Round 5: Tuks vs. Nevermind.  
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Hippo on Feb 2nd, 2011, 8:20am

on 02/01/11 at 22:55:53, Fritzlein wrote:
Rats, that means I can no longer commentate that game.  Hopefully it works out for me to commentate woh vs. ChrisB or ArifSyed vs. ocmiente.  Otherwise I might only be able to commentate on one game of Round 5: Tuks vs. Nevermind.  

It's a pitty I was looking forward to listen your comments. Thanks for your comments whenever you are available. ... I hope I would have more chances to comment the elimination portion ...
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 2nd, 2011, 12:19pm

on 02/02/11 at 08:20:40, Hippo wrote:
It's a pitty I was looking forward to listen your comments. Thanks for your comments whenever you are available. ... I hope I would have more chances to comment the elimination portion ...

Thanks for your kind words.  As it turns out, the ice storm has caused schools to close for a third consecutive day (i.e. Thursday as well as Tuesday and Wednesday), so I will be able to give commentary Thursday afternoon after all.  The bad news is that we are experiencing rolling power outages, so my commentary may be interrupted at any time.  :)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by ginrunner on Feb 8th, 2011, 12:54am
Knarl and I have agreed to move our game to the same time but one day earlier. (This would make it Friday for me instead of Saturday)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Harren on Feb 8th, 2011, 1:25pm
I thought I changed my preferred times, but apparently something went wrong. I need to reschedule, but so far my opponent, qswanger, has not reacted to my mail.

If he doesn't react, am I not allowed to change my preferred times for the next run of the scheduler?
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by ginrunner on Feb 8th, 2011, 3:16pm
I could be wrong but I think this is the last round unless you make the top 8
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Harren on Feb 8th, 2011, 3:25pm
This is the last round, and I won't be able to make the finals, but I still wouldn't like to forfeit the last game if it can be avoided :)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Adanac on Feb 8th, 2011, 3:42pm

on 02/08/11 at 15:25:31, Harren wrote:
This is the last round, and I won't be able to make the finals, but I still wouldn't like to forfeit the last game if it can be avoided :)


Absolutely, I definitely agree that you should try your hardest to re-schedule even though it's your last game of the tournament.  It would be heartbreaking for a player on the bubble at 4-2 to need a key victory in another game for Strength of Schedule only to see it lost by forfeit.  All games are important at this stage!
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 8th, 2011, 5:07pm

on 02/08/11 at 13:25:34, Harren wrote:
I thought I changed my preferred times, but apparently something went wrong. I need to reschedule, but so far my opponent, qswanger, has not reacted to my mail.

If he doesn't react, am I not allowed to change my preferred times for the next run of the scheduler?

Correct.  You can't unilaterally change your times.  If you do, qswanger can just ask for the original time slot back and Omar will give it to him.  Especially given that qswanger has already had to miss two games due to a time that didn't work for him, I can understand if he wouldn't want to let go of a spot if he finally got a good one.  On the other hand, you could transgress first and ask forgiveness later; maybe qswanger will let you keep the new time...
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by omar on Feb 8th, 2011, 8:07pm
I've run the scheduler again. If any players have agreed to a new time please post here.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by ginrunner on Feb 8th, 2011, 8:09pm
knarl and I agreed to play friday at 2pm arizona time
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Nombril on Feb 8th, 2011, 10:04pm

on 02/08/11 at 20:09:02, ginrunner wrote:
knarl and I agreed to play friday at 2pm arizona time
That is what I see in the Gameroom, maybe Omar already changed it after you posted here.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by omar on Feb 10th, 2011, 10:32pm

on 02/08/11 at 22:04:46, Nombril wrote:
That is what I see in the Gameroom, maybe Omar already changed it after you posted here.


I didn't change it manually. Might have changed when I ran the scheduler the second time.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Hippo on Feb 12th, 2011, 4:57pm
I agree with rescheduling my game with Sconibulus to either slot 118 or 119. (We don't mutually agreed that yet).
Seems we mutually agreed on 119 now.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Sconibulus on Feb 12th, 2011, 5:21pm
I agree to slot 119, and I'm really sorry for the inconvenience to everyone involved.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by omar on Feb 12th, 2011, 8:57pm
I've changed the game time to slot 119.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Adanac on Feb 15th, 2011, 9:47am
I’m happy with my Round 1 time slot.

For next week, however, it’s going to be extremely difficult for me to schedule a game.  Just to give my future opponent ample warning, I cannot play any games Wednesday – Sunday unless it’s very early Wednesday (like 5 or 6am EST), early Thursday (anytime up to 10am EST) or the following Monday (I can take a day off work so that I can play anytime).

In the various scenarios it’s possible that I can play anyone except rabbits in round 2.  I’m bracing for a possible encounter with Fritzlein, which will occur if the top 4 players either all win or all lose this week.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 15th, 2011, 12:18pm

on 02/15/11 at 09:47:33, Adanac wrote:
I’m bracing for a possible encounter with Fritzlein, which will occur if the top 4 players either all win or all lose this week.

If you end up paired with me, we will surely get a Monday time slot.  How about 119?  If you end up paired with someone who "schedules to win", you have given him a roadmap for how to land you in an unplayable time and beat you by forfeit. ;)  Seriously, I'm glad that Monday daytime will work for you, because this year I'm not going to play at an off-schedule time for me regardless of the scheduling difficulties of my opponent, however legitimate and understandable those scheduling difficulties are.  I am marking sixty slots in the scheduler, some better, some worse, and the ultimate time I play at will be one of those sixty.

This isn't to say that I will claim a forfeit after 15 minutes, or that I will refuse all rescheduling requests.  If I have a long time window I will wait for a late opponent, and if I have an alternative time slot that is decent, I will reschedule.  I won't, however, get up at 6:00 eastern (5:00 local) given that my bedtime is midnight and that would mean playing on less than five hours sleep.  As much as I would prefer to play out my games on the board rather than win by forfeit due to my opponent's crowded schedule, I'm going to draw the line at offering to play at a time that gives me a disadvantage.

I hope this doesn't sound too harsh.  I definitely won't use the scheduler as a weapon.  And on the flip side, if I have technical difficulties myself, or family emergencies that make all times bad for me, etc., I won't ask any quarter.  At the end of the day Arimaa is just a game, so I won't complain if "real world" realities get in the way of my Arimaa fortunes.  (And I hope ChrisB understood that I was prepared to and expecting to take a loss in the first round of the preliminaries; his generosity was pure benevolence.)
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 18th, 2011, 3:48pm
Hippo, I just want to warn you that I will probably be playing our Sunday game from the library because my router died and probably won't be replaced until Monday.  Since they limit the time one can be logged in, I won't join the game until the last minute.  The probibility that I will lose due to disconnection or timeout is also likely to be higher than normal, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.  :)

If a 24-hour delay works for you (changing to slot 118) that would be great for me, but if not, no worries.  Indeed, even delaying until Monday is no guarantee that I will be able to play from home, so don't do it if the time is bad for you.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Hippo on Feb 19th, 2011, 1:52pm

on 02/18/11 at 15:48:47, Fritzlein wrote:
Hippo, I just want to warn you that I will probably be playing our Sunday game from the library because my router died and probably won't be replaced until Monday.  Since they limit the time one can be logged in, I won't join the game until the last minute.  The probibility that I will lose due to disconnection or timeout is also likely to be higher than normal, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.  :)

If a 24-hour delay works for you (changing to slot 118) that would be great for me, but if not, no worries.  Indeed, even delaying until Monday is no guarantee that I will be able to play from home, so don't do it if the time is bad for you.


Sorry I have missed this post. I have checked and I could play at 118 as well. So if you confirm 118 at least 4 hours before the original schedule so till slot (90), I agree with the change.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 19th, 2011, 5:52pm

on 02/19/11 at 13:52:45, Hippo wrote:
Sorry I have missed this post. I have checked and I could play at 118 as well. So if you confirm 118 at least 4 hours before the original schedule so till slot (90), I agree with the change.

The new router arrived today!  Yay!  So if the original time is still OK with you, let's keep the original.  Thanks for the offer, though.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Hippo on Feb 20th, 2011, 2:48am

on 02/19/11 at 17:52:48, Fritzlein wrote:
The new router arrived today!  Yay!  So if the original time is still OK with you, let's keep the original.  Thanks for the offer, though.


OK, no reschedule than, congrats :) to solving the problem.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Adanac on Feb 23rd, 2011, 8:53am
Omar,

Can you please change my game versus Tuks back to the original time of Monday 19:00 GMT?  We didn't discuss any time changes and I was very happy with the original time (especially since I'll be on a shuttle bus to the airport during the new time ;D ).

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Tuks on Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:42am
i didn't even notice the change, yes, the first time was fine for me
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by omar on Feb 23rd, 2011, 11:13pm
Not sure what happened there. But anyways, I've changed it back to Monday 19:00 GMT.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Adanac on Feb 26th, 2011, 12:14pm
Omar, sorry to do this again but my weekend plans are ruined...meaning that Sunday is now an open day for me.  Also, Tuks has other plans for Monday.  So we've agreed to switch our game to

Sunday 16:00 GMT

That's 4 hours earlier than the Fritzlein - Nombril game.  I apologize for the short notice and I hope this isn't too late notice for the spectators and commentators.
Title: Re: 2011 WC - Rescheduling
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 26th, 2011, 7:59pm

on 02/26/11 at 12:14:07, Adanac wrote:
That's 4 hours earlier than the Fritzlein - Nombril game.  I apologize for the short notice and I hope this isn't too late notice for the spectators and commentators.

Yep, I can still commentate.


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