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(Message started by: Janzert on Jan 5th, 2015, 9:21pm)
Title: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by Janzert on Jan 5th, 2015, 9:21pm
The spreadsheet for commentators to coordinate the games they plan to announce is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zzIHDiIZKALPQbDMAaXATAApCtF5sYE6aBITYglWKE/edit?usp=sharing

Instructions for getting setup are in this thread (http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=talk;action=display;num=1416482829).

I'm still working on setting up the relay to also record the commentary. This may or may not get done soon.

Any other questions feel free to ask below.

Janzert
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 13th, 2015, 1:09pm
GorgontheWonderCow and I are going to take a stab at working together, starting with 99of9 vs. novacat in Round 2.  Both of us prefer the structure of having exactly two commentators as opposed to an "open mike night" that some others have had success with.  I guess that mirrors my Arimaa playing style: I always try to simplify rather than complicate.  :)

That said, I understand it raises some issues to claim exclusive use of Arimaa radio for any specific game.  Maybe it's not a big deal in the preliminaries when we can easily take turns because there are more than twenty games to go around, but for the finals it is a great privilege to get to commentate the marquee games.  Is there any way that more than one channel of commentary could be set up?  If not, we may need to talk about how to finesse the issue of having more willing commentators than available airtime.

First things first, though.  We need to see whether Ryan and I even make a decent team.  I'm probably going to be more nervous about the game than 99of9 and novacat.  Saturday night, here we come!
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by clyring on Jan 13th, 2015, 7:52pm
As I recall, it was originally intended for the 'Commentator' spreadsheet slot in the 2013 WC to imply a more personal level of format control, and this is something I am more than happy to respect, within reason. This is also why I have generally historically taken the 'co-commentator' slots in the coordination spreadsheets.
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by Janzert on Jan 14th, 2015, 11:38am
There does seem to be some accommodation in the site radio widget setup for multiple games at once. I'm not sure if it has ever been used or even fully tested and certainly my end with relay isn't currently setup for it. But if it looks like something we'll need I'll be happy to try getting it setup.

One additional note for commentators. I expect that things have a better chance to go much smoothly for you if you can pretest whatever setup you're planning on using. On the other hand if you don't get the chance to test beforehand don't worry about it too much.

Be as complete as you can make it, including the combination of commentators, the hardware they are planning to use, any additional streaming (vimeo, youtube, etc.). Pick a random game in the gameroom and commentate for 5-10 minutes. You don't need to actually add the radio widget to the game, you can check that at http://radio.janzert.com/ if you want. This will hopefully let you work out any little kinks and surprises beforehand.

If or more likely when something goes wrong, be it technical or otherwise, stay calm, nobody else is upset, the community is very forgiving and happy for whatever you are able to do.

Janzert
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by GorgontheWonderCow on Jan 17th, 2015, 11:03pm
My base broadcasting package can be previewed here (for 99of9 VS Novacat): http://www.twitch.tv/gotcow/b/612583389

I'll work on the quality of broadcasting, both from my execution and from a technical perspective, as we continue to move forward. The next step is to try and removed the delay between broadcasters which we're experiencing on mumble. I'll work on a solution to that as soon as I have time.
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by JimmSlimm on Jan 18th, 2015, 2:33am
Very nice! I hope arimaa will get gain some new players from twitch from this :)

If there are some new potential players, maybe have a introductionary video/highlight about arimaa, like the rules, and mentioning the difficulty of building AI compared to chess? Or simply a link to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjwid2Q4PY8

Good job!
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by omar on Jan 18th, 2015, 8:22pm
Congrats on an awesome broadcast Grogon and Fritz. Even my kids stopped what they were doing and started listening to the Arimaa broadcast I had on. They are a hard bunch to please, so you guys really knocked it out of the park :-)
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by GorgontheWonderCow on Jan 24th, 2015, 11:07am
This weekend I'll be doing clyring/Fritzlein with kzb52. KZB52--if you have a voice messaging software other than Mumble, such as skype, please let me know--I might like to experiment with an alternative setup scheme so that we can get rid of the delay between broadcasters.
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by kzb52 on Jan 24th, 2015, 6:38pm
I do have skype.  I'll contact you via a direct message as well, but basically I'm free to experiment and configure setups whenever you want on Sunday.  Looking forward to talking with you tomorrow.  8)
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by Janzert on Jan 27th, 2015, 1:48pm
Great to see the number of commentators who are participating seems to be increasing. I think we may have already surpassed any other year for the number of different commentators. Last year I think was 4 or 5 commentators and this year we are already up to 6 or 7.

Also everyone I've been able to listen to has done a great job. Thanks for the effort.

Janzert
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by GorgontheWonderCow on Jan 31st, 2015, 1:03pm
I think I'll have to sit this weekend out due to some complications with work/real life considerations. I'll try to cast two from the following week to make up for it!
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by GorgontheWonderCow on Mar 14th, 2015, 12:05pm
I can't apologize profusely enough for dropping the ball on my commentary the last two weeks in a row. I keep signing up for games thinking they are on a Sunday (for some reason) and missing them when they actually occur on Saturdays. Unfortunately, I work on Saturday afternoons, which may be why I am continuously tricking myself into thinking the games are occurring on Sundays...

I've been really disappointed to be so inactive as well. Hopefully I'll be able to rectify this situation in the near future.
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by lightvector on Mar 14th, 2015, 9:41pm
Thanks for the update. Many people here enjoy your commentary, and if they're disappointed when you're missing, in part it's simply because of the way they have come to value your contribution in the first place. Don't make yourself feel too bad for it - instead of that, just do the things you need to do to really make sure you get the date right on any future games you sign up for. :)
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by aaaa on Mar 15th, 2015, 7:00pm

on 03/14/15 at 12:05:08, GorgontheWonderCow wrote:
I can't apologize profusely enough for dropping the ball on my commentary the last two weeks in a row. I keep signing up for games thinking they are on a Sunday (for some reason) and missing them when they actually occur on Saturdays. Unfortunately, I work on Saturday afternoons, which may be why I am continuously tricking myself into thinking the games are occurring on Sundays...

I've been really disappointed to be so inactive as well. Hopefully I'll be able to rectify this situation in the near future.

Would you be willing to commentate any of the Challenge games as well?
Title: Re: 2015 WC Commentary
Post by GorgontheWonderCow on Mar 17th, 2015, 12:43am
I would if I can schedule them in! I miss casting Arimaa already and I've only been gone for a few weeks :).


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