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(Message started by: chessandgo on Jul 18th, 2006, 1:18pm)
Title: yet another silly question
Post by chessandgo on Jul 18th, 2006, 1:18pm
hi all,

may one have more than one account ?

thx !
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Fritzlein on Jul 18th, 2006, 6:25pm
I think several people have had more than one, for various reasons.  Omar set up a second account as OmarFast because he didn't want games at 30 seconds per move to affect his real rating.  Later he must have changed his mind, because he played even blitz games with his main account and stopped playing with OmarFast.

99of9 set up a second account as 88of8 so that he could attempt botashing records at huge handicaps without affecting his rating.  The 88of8 account became unnecessary when Omar added the feature of "Unrated Mode", specifically for botbashers.

Vinvin set up a second account as VinvinBel, but I have no idea why.  Maybe he couldn't remember the password for the Vinvin account?

There are several more examples of one person having two accounts.  But why do you want a second one?
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by chessandgo on Jul 18th, 2006, 6:36pm
because I am in awe for fritzlforpresident's nickname :)
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by FritzlForMaster on Jul 18th, 2006, 8:23pm
Well, no more  ;D
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Fritzlein on Jul 18th, 2006, 10:01pm
I can't tell you how flattered I am.  My fans are legion!  Well, two at least.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by FritzlForMaster on Jul 18th, 2006, 10:08pm
actually, I wondered for the potm : if I play someone with this other account, it might make 4 games counted for potm against myself for this person, instead of 2 ... Any special rule for this ?
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Adanac on Jul 19th, 2006, 9:28am

on 07/18/06 at 22:01:15, Fritzlein wrote:
I can't tell you how flattered I am.  My fans are legion!  Well, two at least.


Can I join the fan club too?  My new nickname will be
"AtnediserProFnielztirF"
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Fritzlein on Jul 19th, 2006, 9:31am
Yes, it would give extra points for Player of the Month.  The special rule is don't do that or anything else to manipulate the Player of the Month that isn't in the spirit of the contest.  It's fairly amazing that no one has tried to circumvent the spirit of the rules in PotM so far; it's the type of contest that tends to have many loopholes.  So far there hasn't been any evidence of collusion, or games lost on purpose, or fake accounts, or anything except the winner trying to play lots of serious games against as many different people as possible.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Adanac on Jul 19th, 2006, 9:34am

on 07/18/06 at 22:08:00, FritzlForMaster wrote:
actually, I wondered for the potm : if I play someone with this other account, it might make 4 games counted for potm against myself for this person, instead of 2 ... Any special rule for this ?


I think that playing HvH games with 2 separate accounts should be disallowed.  A second account should only be used for HvB games, if a second account can be justified at all.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Adanac on Jul 19th, 2006, 9:38am

on 07/19/06 at 09:31:05, Fritzlein wrote:
Yes, it would give extra points for Player of the Month.  The special rule is don't do that or anything else to manipulate the Player of the Month that isn't in the spirit of the contest.  It's fairly amazing that no one has tried to circumvent the spirit of the rules in PotM so far; it's the type of contest that tends to have many loopholes.  So far there hasn't been any evidence of collusion, or games lost on purpose, or fake accounts, or anything except the winner trying to play lots of serious games against as many different people as possible.


Other than some blatant abuse of the "Change to Unrated" feature, I'd say that this website has a remarkably upstanding group of people.  I've never yet had any worries that anyone would cheat in HvH contests for PoTM, WC or Postal Championship.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by RonWeasley on Jul 19th, 2006, 11:07am
One feature somebody might want someday is the ability to rename their one account so they can retain rating and history information.  The reason to do this would be simply the desire to have a new name.  For example, if J. K. Rowling ever visits this site, I might have to rename my account.  Maybe to ... BartyCrouch.

Anyway, feel free to open new accounts named WeasleyIsOurKing.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by DorianGaray on Jul 20th, 2006, 8:07am

on 07/19/06 at 09:38:29, Adanac wrote:
Other than some blatant abuse of the "Change to Unrated" feature...

I think we should vote to eliminate that option, who's with me?
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Fritzlein on Jul 20th, 2006, 8:37am
I hope we can abolish the change-to-unrated feature when the new javascript client is complete and tested.  Once we have a more stable client, there will be less need to unrate games.  There will still be games which are lost due to connection/Internet problems rather than interface problems, but hopefully those will be a much smaller number of games and therefore more tolerable.

If we do keep the change-to-unrated feature, then perhaps we could limit folks to using it once per week.  If you've already unrated a game in the past week, you will know that you are playing at your own risk from then on.  Anyone who is hyper-concerned about his rating can always play in Unrated Mode until a week has passed and he has the protection back.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by DorianGaray on Jul 20th, 2006, 5:36pm

on 07/20/06 at 08:37:34, Fritzlein wrote:
I hope we can abolish the change-to-unrated feature when the new javascript client is complete and tested.  Once we have a more stable client, there will be less need to unrate games.  There will still be games which are lost due to connection/Internet problems rather than interface problems, but hopefully those will be a much smaller number of games and therefore more tolerable.

If we do keep the change-to-unrated feature, then perhaps we could limit folks to using it once per week.  If you've already unrated a game in the past week, you will know that you are playing at your own risk from then on.  Anyone who is hyper-concerned about his rating can always play in Unrated Mode until a week has passed and he has the protection back.

One thing that I consider a bug is that when I send my move at say 5 sec. elapsed on the clock, it registers sometimes, at up to 30 SEC. for that move. That means that the 25 sec. that it took the server to respond are taken off MY thinking time. I think it could easily be corrected if the server took into account MY LOCAL time when I pushed the button. Do you agree with me Fritz?
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by Fritzlein on Jul 20th, 2006, 6:08pm
I know that the client for the Internet Chess Club has a "timestamp" feature that sends in both the move, and the amount of time used locally on that player's computer, i.e. the difference between when the previous move arrived and a response was sent.  This factors out the time of Internet lag.  However, I understand that it was somewhat vulnerable to cheating, and I have no idea how difficult this is to code securely.  There may be programmers here who have a better insight than I do.
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by 99of9 on Jul 20th, 2006, 7:11pm

on 07/20/06 at 08:07:47, DorianGaray wrote:
I think we should vote to eliminate that option, who's with me?


I think we should vote to eliminate those that abuse the option.  Then it would remain available for those of us who use it fairly and properly. :-)
Title: Re: yet another silly question
Post by DorianGaray on Jul 21st, 2006, 12:55am

on 07/20/06 at 19:11:36, 99of9 wrote:
I think we should vote to eliminate those that abuse the option.  Then it would remain available for those of us who use it fairly and properly. :-)

Great idea! Why don't you start a thread "I want these people to be eliminated, who's with me?"?


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