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(Message started by: Fritzlein on Sep 11^th, 2005, 12:17am)

Title: Recurring bot problem
Post by Fritzlein on Sep 11^th, 2005, 12:17am

Omar,

Just now grey_0x2A played Arimaazilla in game 19354. Arimaazilla lost on time, and didn't come back for another game. Also the game doesn't show up in the recent games list, and doesn't show up in the commented games list even after being commented by grey_0x2A and myself.

I think this exact thing has happened before, although I haven't verified all the details until now. Do you have any idea what is causing this behavior?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Arimanator on Sep 11^th, 2005, 3:19am

Fritzlein I believe that to appear in the game list you have to have played a minimum number of moves, maybe 5. It looks like it's voluntary.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by omar on Sep 14^th, 2005, 11:32am

The game is still there, but since it was less than 5 moves, it does not appear in the list as Arimanator mentioned.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Adanac on Sep 15^th, 2005, 7:25am

I've played 2 games against bot_bomb2005Fast in the past, 24 hours ago and 48 hours ago, respectively. I won both games, once with silver, the other time with gold. Unfortunately, there's no record of yesterday's game at all and I can't remember the game ID#

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Arimanator on Sep 15^th, 2005, 9:28am

on 09/15/05 at 07:25:36, Adanac wrote:

Unfortunately, I believe those games are lost forever, I have at least 6 or 7 games like that won against different bots and that never appeared on the game list, we'd better declare water under the bridge on these ones.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Fritzlein on Sep 15^th, 2005, 10:26am

on 09/14/05 at 11:32:34, omar wrote:

The game is still there, but since it was less than 5 moves, it does not appear in the list as Arimanator mentioned.

OK, that explains why the game did not appear in the recent games list. But why did Arimaazilla disappear after this game and not re-login for another? I guess it isn't a big deal to figure that out, because you can periodically log in to the server and manually start any bots that are AWOL. Thanks for all your hard work maintaining the server!

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Fritzlein on Sep 17^th, 2005, 9:19am

OK, I just played a 39-move game against Belbo, and it isn't showing up in the recent games list, so the 5-move cutoff doesn't explain this glitch. Perhaps it has something to do with him losing on time. Perhaps it is also related to the symptom that I didn't have an asterisk by my own name in the game display despite being seated.

I can see the game through the "My Finished Games" link: it is number 19653.

Oh, and Arimaazilla is AWOL again after losing to JDB on time, although that game (19640) does show in the recent games list.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Arimanator on Sep 17^th, 2005, 1:50pm

on 09/17/05 at 09:19:43, Fritzlein wrote:

Fritzlein, I believe I can explain this, the clock of the room has been readjusted roughfly while you were playing against Belbo, which means that the game actually appears on the list but 12 hours back in time, the clock is now in sync with the real time, as far as I can tell. So this was just a necessary side effect of the correction of a wider problem.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by Fritzlein on Sep 17^th, 2005, 9:16pm

Ah, thank you Arimanator. I can see the game now among the recent games. I had always assumed the games were sorted by id#, but I guess they are actually sorted by time of completion. You have a sharp eye!

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by omar on Sep 18^th, 2005, 2:38am

on 09/15/05 at 07:25:36, Adanac wrote:

I was not able to find any of your lost games. Here's what I see from around this time:

26457: Adanac bot_loc2005blitz wg 52 [Mon Sep 12 05:01:23 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19397

26458: Adanac bot_gnobot2005blitz wg 62 [Mon Sep 12 05:33:23 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19399

26460: bot_gnobot2005blitz Adanac bg 25 [Mon Sep 12 06:07:52 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19400

26509: bot_bomb2005fast Adanac bg 41 [Tue Sep 13 00:54:51 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19420

26548: Adanac bot_Bomb2005Fast [Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 GMT]
Not stored; less than 2 moves

26652: Fritzlein Adanac wg 33 [Thu Sep 15 13:29:09 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19532

26688: Adanac bot_bomb2005blitz bg 40 [Thu Sep 15 23:28:53 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19551

26690: bot_bomb2005blitz Adanac wg 36 [Thu Sep 15 23:49:48 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19553

26747: bot_bomb2005blitz Adanac wt 34 [Fri Sep 16 12:40:07 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19602

26748: Adanac bot_bomb2005blitz wg 45 [Fri Sep 16 12:59:00 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19603

26749: Adanac bot_bomb2005blitz wg 38 [Fri Sep 16 13:19:43 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19605

26752: bot_bomb2005blitz Adanac bg 65 [Fri Sep 16 13:43:25 2005 GMT]
Stored as: 19607

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by omar on Sep 18^th, 2005, 2:40am

on 09/15/05 at 10:26:05, Fritzlein wrote:

OK, that explains why the game did not appear in the recent games list. But why did Arimaazilla disappear after this game and not re-login for another?

Not sure yet what's wrong with Arimaazilla after the move. I'll check into soon.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by omar on Sep 18^th, 2005, 2:48am

on 09/17/05 at 13:50:40, Arimanator wrote:

Im running a NTP deamon on the new server (instead of a cron job which updated once an hour on the old server). But I noticed that it had stopped yesterday and restarted it. I didn't realize that the time had skewed so much. I better be careful not to restart it if there are games in progress.

Title: Re: Recurring bot problem
Post by omar on Sep 19^th, 2005, 9:25am

Fixed the problem with Arimaazilla getting stuck. A sleep command was getting a negitive value. On the old system it returned right away; on the new system a negitive value causes it to sleep forever :-)