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(Message started by: Kraizy_Dave on Apr 15^th, 2012, 3:38pm)

Title: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Kraizy_Dave on Apr 15^th, 2012, 3:38pm

Is there a way to download a Bot to play offline?

Everytime I try to get into Arimaa I get a period where all of my games finish because I click send and my move wont send. Even on a good day I lose 6-9 seconds per move to lag- so I have had to give up blitz games.

Alternatively, it would be nice to be able to rejoin a game that finished on time and finish it off as an unrated game. At least then it isn't a complete waste of time.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Fritzlein on Apr 15^th, 2012, 6:58pm

In general the server bots aren't available for download. I had such horrible client troubles when I first learned Arimaa that I bought Bomb just so I could play offline.

http://www.smart-games.com/arimaa.html

Now there are free bots available, but you have to figure out how to hook them up to an interface, separately available gratis.

If you want the cream of the crop you have to pay for the Challenger, bot-briareus, from rbarriera. Unfortunately, you still have to rely on a free interface in that case, which is less than ideal.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Kraizy_Dave on Apr 18^th, 2012, 12:38pm

Thanks Fritz, that is useful information.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Nobodo on Dec 30^th, 2014, 8:48am

on 04/15/12 at 18:58:43, Fritzlein wrote:

I like to play offline.
The game from smart-games.com hasn't been updated since February of 2005, and they want $20 for it. Is that the same bot as the one at the top of the bot ladder (bot_Bomb2005Fast)?

Looking on the 'downloads' page, I don't see any options for offline play that sound very challenging, or are they?

"If you want the cream of the crop you have to pay for the Challenger, bot-briareus, from rbarriera. Unfortunately, you still have to rely on a free interface in that case, which is less than ideal."

Is it still possible to purchase bot-briareus, or possibly bot_Marwin, bot_Ziltoid, or bot_Sharp? If so, how?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 1^st, 2015, 11:02am

on 12/30/14 at 08:48:42, Nobodo wrote:

The game from smart-games.com hasn't been updated since February of 2005, and they want $20 for it. Is that the same bot as the one at the top of the bot ladder (bot_Bomb2005Fast)?

Yep, it's that engine, just a different interface.

Quote:

Looking on the 'downloads' page, I don't see any options for offline play that sound very challenging, or are they?

The most challenging one is ziltoid, but the interface for offline play is very clunky; you have to enter moves in a separate window and cut to the clipboard. I think of it only as an analysis tool.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Nobodo on Jan 8^th, 2015, 4:53pm

Thank you, Fritzlein.

Do you know if ziltoid has an api that I could program against to make a GUI for it?

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 9^th, 2015, 10:01am

on 01/08/15 at 16:53:55, Nobodo wrote:

Thank you, Fritzlein.

Do you know if ziltoid has an api that I could program against to make a GUI for it?

I don't know. I recommend contacting the developer, Ricardo Barreira, through his profile page in the game room: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/gameroom/message.cgi?u=4232

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by rabbits on Jan 9^th, 2015, 6:05pm

Nobodo,

I believe that rbarreira, who programmed bot_ziltoid, used the Arimaa Engine Interface: http://arimaa.janzert.com/aei/

I made a GUI for AEI in 2010: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=devTalk;action=display;num=1266712867;start=

It's not the best GUI in the world, but it's worth checking out. Let us know if you do make another one!

Rabbits

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Nobodo on Jan 12^th, 2015, 3:00pm

Thank you both. I'll try again contacting rbarreira; no luck on previous attempt.

rabbits - I'll definitely check out that GUI, thank you for sharing it and the AEI documentation link!

I'll definitely post the code if I create a GUI or a mod.

Mark.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Nobodo on Jan 12^th, 2015, 3:03pm

Dumb question I forgot to ask earlier...

What are the rectangular text graphics in your footers/signatures? i.e. one says 'ATLANTICS' and one says 'ROCKIES'. I've noticed them on some people's posts and wondered what they represent?

Thanks,
Mark.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 12^th, 2015, 4:31pm

on 01/12/15 at 15:03:55, Nobodo wrote:

What are the rectangular text graphics in your footers/signatures? i.e. one says 'ATLANTICS' and one says 'ROCKIES'. I've noticed them on some people's posts and wondered what they represent?

For a couple of years we amused ourselves in the off-season (i.e. between World Championship tournaments) by playing team matches in the Arimaa World League. Each team in a match would field three players, but not necessarily their three strongest, since each team had a "ratings budget" they had to stay within or be penalized. By all accounts the Arimaa World League was successful and fun, but it has not continued because it relied heavily on megajester to promote and administrate it.

I was on team Rockies, which was clearly the coolest team in the league, albeit seldom on top of the standings.

Title: Re: Playing Bots Offline
Post by Ail on Jan 21^st, 2015, 8:05am

Why did noone recommend David Wu's Android-App?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.icosahedral.arimaa&hl=de

It is extremely simple to install and use.

It uses a former challenger and comes with 10 difficulty-levels, that should provide enough challenge unless you are one of the top players.