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Re: Move 18
« Reply #15 on: Aug 30th, 2009, 7:01pm »
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on Aug 30th, 2009, 10:24am, Hannoskaj wrote:
Indeed, this looks optimistic (though I like much the wrecking of rabbit structure on the left).
My intuitive 19s would be establishing the cat fork
19s cd4n Ed3n Hd6w cd5n
We may defend with  
20g Db1nn rc7w Hb7w
but it looks really hard to keep the cat for long, especially with d7 rabbit in the way. We could also push it south and hope for some play if Fritz takes cat for rabbit.
20g Db1nn rc7s Hb7w
20s Dog takes
21g Mc3 pushes dc5 Rb4e

 
I would like this position a lot for us.  Even though our camel would get into big difficulty on 21s, our goal threats will save it:
 
18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w  
18s dc6s ed4s Cc4e de6w  
19g rb7w Hb6n Re1w Dc1w  
19s Cd4n ed3n dd6w Cd5n
20g rc7e Hb7e Db1n Dc1n
20s Cd6e dc6e Ce6e Cf6x dd6e
21g Mc3n dc5n dc6x Mc4n Rb4e
21s ed4n ed5n Mc5e cb5e
22g Db3n Db4n cc5n Db5e
22s ra6e Md5e ed6s cc6e  
 
And now either 23g Ra2nnnn  or 23g Dc5w Rc4n Rc5n Db5e prevents the immediate camel capture and gives us a very strong rabbit.
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #16 on: Aug 30th, 2009, 10:24pm »
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on Aug 30th, 2009, 7:01pm, Adanac wrote:

 
I would like this position a lot for us.  Even though our camel would get into big difficulty on 21s, our goal threats will save it:
 
18g Dd1w Dc1w Db1n Db2n  
18s ed4s Cc4e Cd4e ed3n  
19g Rb4w Ra4n cb5s Hb6s
19s Cd4n ed3n dd6w Cd5n
20g rc7e Hb7e Db1n Dc1n
20s Cd6e dc6e Ce6e Cf6x dd6e
21g Mc3n dc5n dc6x Mc4n Rb4e
21s ed4n ed5n Mc5e cb5e
22g Db3n Db4n cc5n Db5e
22s ra6e Md5e ed6s cc6e  
 
And now either 23g Ra2nnnn  or 23g Dc5w Rc4n Rc5n Db5e prevents the immediate camel capture and gives us a very strong rabbit.

 
 
I guess the top three moves should read:
18g Dd1w Dc1w Db1n Db2n
18s ed4s Cc4e Cd4e ed3n
19g Rb4w Ra4n cb5s Hb6s  
 
Anyhow, taking cat (and rather with keeping the dog at d6) immediately was suggested only if we play  
20g rc7**s** Hb7e Db1n Dc1n
so that we cannot take dog on 21g but only rabbit. Of course I was expecting our goal threats to be strong enough not to reject the line immediately, but we are material down, not up.
If we play 20g rc7**e** etc., then I was thinking of merely Ra6e xxx, and it's really hard to keep the cat. Maybe even Ra6e Dc5e Cb5e...  
 
 
 
Otherwise, if Fritz plays 18s de6w rb7w rc7w dc6n, I think we are really comfortable. He does not have enough material to make progress anywhere with both dogs on the left.
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #17 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 10:05am »
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Is there a consensus on the rabbit pull and Dd1w or is the consensus still D->b3?
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #18 on: Aug 31st, 2009, 12:33pm »
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on Aug 31st, 2009, 10:05am, RonWeasley wrote:
Is there a consensus on the rabbit pull and Dd1w or is the consensus still D->b3?

 
I have a strong preference for the ra7s and Dd1w.
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #19 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 3:27am »
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This seems like a voice vote.  18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w.  6 votes will do it.  Count mine and Adanac.  I will make the move after noticing the 6th vote or an objection.
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #20 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 5:11am »
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on Sep 1st, 2009, 3:27am, RonWeasley wrote:
This seems like a voice vote.  18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w.  6 votes will do it.  Count mine and Adanac.  I will make the move after noticing the 6th vote or an objection.

 
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #21 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 7:44am »
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on Sep 1st, 2009, 3:27am, RonWeasley wrote:
This seems like a voice vote.  18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w.  6 votes will do it.  Count mine and Adanac.  I will make the move after noticing the 6th vote or an objection.

 
Count me in too.
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #22 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 8:27am »
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This seems like a voice vote.  18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w.  6 votes will do it.  Count mine and Adanac.  I will make the move after noticing the 6th vote or an objection.

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Re: Move 18
« Reply #23 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 1:04pm »
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It's getting late in the day and we have 5 votes.  (If I asked for 5 votes we would have only 4.)  Simon, chessandgo , and Hannoskaj have not responded today and chessandgo most recently gave a preference for this move.  I'm going to risk offending some of TheMob by making this move now even though this voice vote has only been going for about 9 hours.
 
So  18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w.
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #24 on: Sep 1st, 2009, 5:54pm »
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on Sep 1st, 2009, 1:04pm, RonWeasley wrote:
It's getting late in the day and we have 5 votes.  (If I asked for 5 votes we would have only 4.)  Simon, chessandgo , and Hannoskaj have not responded today and chessandgo most recently gave a preference for this move.  I'm going to risk offending some of TheMob by making this move now even though this voice vote has only been going for about 9 hours.
 
So  18g Hb6w Ha6e ra7s Dd1w.

 
This muggle supports your bold decision to boost our reserve time  Cheesy
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #25 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 12:13am »
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Yeah, I am not completely sure it was the best move. But I am, that this move is the most fun!
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Re: Move 18
« Reply #26 on: Sep 2nd, 2009, 12:42am »
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well, let's go for it Smiley
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