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RonWeasley
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Silver plays 33s dc6e hd4e Re5w he4n.
Obvious threat is getting the d5 rabbit pushed to c6 by the horse. My first reaction is 34g Dg6n Re2e he5s Ee6s
I don't see a good goal attack through the g-file anymore. I worry about a silver attack on the east with silver e pushing gold H to f3. That's why I went Re2e instead of Re2n. So my plan is to hostage silver horse.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #1 on: Apr 8th, 2010, 1:19pm » |
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So Fritz blocked all the goal attacks.
My instinct is to "frame" the f7 rabbit (with Rf2) and attack the h4 rabbit on following turns abandoning our rabbit.
But attacking the horse is not bad idea preventing immediate rabbit capture. I am not sure with the dog north step. Silver should probably prevent the horse capture and does not have free 3 steps to capture the dog.
Dog on g6 prevents h rabbit from reaching g6.
I would move h2 rabbit to h3 instead.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #2 on: Apr 8th, 2010, 8:03pm » |
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Fritz could capture the dog, leading to horse hostage rather than horse capture I think, which would pull our elephant out of attack position. Also it looks like it might lead to silver goal attack on g.
The line I'm looking at is
34s ef5n ef6s Dg6wx ef5s
35g hf4s Ef5s hf3s Ef4s
35s rh4s ef4e ef4w hg3n
What about just throwing the silver horse into the f6 trap? It doesn't seem to accomplish all that much, but it would save our rabbit for at least a little while.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #3 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 2:33am » |
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Ron's move is also the one I came up with when looking at the position. Not that I am absolutely thrilled with it, but I have trouble finding anything else interesting.
on Apr 8th, 2010, 8:03pm, Sconibulus wrote:
What about just throwing the silver horse into the f6 trap? It doesn't seem to accomplish all that much, but it would save our rabbit for at least a little while.
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That looks like a bad idea. Strategically, this is simply giving a dog hostage with dg6g7 Hf6g6. Tactically, Silver may instead take the Hg3 and the h4 rabbit would probably be faster than our Re5.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #4 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 3:47am » |
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Before reading the discussion, I had also settled on 34g Dg6n Re2e he5s Ee6s. So we are up to 3 "first instincts" on that one. I'm certainly open to other options, but none of the other current suggestions seem as strong.
on Apr 8th, 2010, 1:19pm, Hippo wrote:| My instinct is to "frame" the f7 rabbit (with Rf2) and attack the h4 rabbit on following turns abandoning our rabbit. |
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I looked at this as well. I don't have any specific lines, but it seemed we would have to give up the rabbit "frame" to make progress anywhere else. It was pretty slow, and in the meantime silver could lead a swarm with his horse at c3.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #5 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 6:31am » |
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on Apr 8th, 2010, 8:03pm, Sconibulus wrote:
The line I'm looking at is
34s ef5n ef6s Dg6wx ef5s
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Oh yes, stupid me ...  ignore it please.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #6 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 7:39am » |
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How about 34g Re2e Rf2n Rf3n Rd2e?
If silver capture the rabbit
34s Rd5w he5w Rc5n Rc6x hd5w
we get a Rabbit on g5
35g Re2n Re3n Rf4e Rg4n
Is there a good way for silver to block this Rabbit? Flipping it to e5 doesn't work. Pushing it to h5 leaves the f-file open for the Re4 (after a rf7 capture).
EDIT: ah oops, 34s Rf4s ef5s ef4w he5e. Hmmm. We should have played this 34g on 33g maybe.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #7 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 11:21am » |
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or maybe
34g Re2n Rd2e Re3e Rf3n
34s Rf4s ef5s ef4w he5e
35g Ee6s Rf3n Re2e Rf2n
35s dd6n Rd5n Rd6w Rc6x dd7s
36g Ee5n hf5w Rf4n Rf3n
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #8 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 11:23am » |
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What is our plan after
34g he5s Ee6s Dg6n Re2n/e
34s dc4e he4e hf4e hg4n
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On first sight I don't see a way to get silver's dog without losing ours.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #9 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 6:42pm » |
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on Apr 9th, 2010, 11:23am, chessandgo wrote:What is our plan after
34g he5s Ee6s Dg6n Re2n/e
34s dc4e he4e hf4e hg4n
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On first sight I don't see a way to get silver's dog without losing ours. |
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Trading dogs does give our extra cat more value, right? And could we gain some time by starting to take the next rabbit while we are trading dogs?
35g ra4e Ca3n rb4e Ca4e
Or start working on the west side now:
34g ra4e Ca3n Re2 e/n (+1, maybe Rh2 or Ra2 n)
It feels like we are in a tough position to advance rabbits - Fritzlein has a head start in this. I know going for goal is more important than taking material, but it seems we have too many pieces tied down goal defense.
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RonWeasley
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #10 on: Apr 12th, 2010, 6:16am » |
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on Apr 9th, 2010, 11:23am, chessandgo wrote:What is our plan after
34g he5s Ee6s Dg6n Re2n/e
34s dc4e he4e hf4e hg4n
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On first sight I don't see a way to get silver's dog without losing ours. |
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Maybe ...
34g he5s Ee6s Dg6n Re2e
34s dc4e he4e hf4e hg4n
35g Ee5n dd6n Ee6w Dg7n
35s ef5s ef4e eg4w Hg3n
36g Rd5e Re5n Re6n Dg8w
36s rb8e rc8e Re7s dd7e
37g rf7s rf6x Df8s Ed6s Ed5e
37s rh6s rh4s rh3w hg5n
38g Rh2w Re6e Ee5e Rd2e
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #11 on: Apr 12th, 2010, 9:40am » |
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on Apr 9th, 2010, 11:23am, chessandgo wrote:What is our plan after
34g he5s Ee6s Dg6n Re2n/e
34s dc4e he4e hf4e hg4n
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On first sight I don't see a way to get silver's dog without losing ours. |
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Or ...
34g Dg6n he5s Ee6s Re2e
34s dc4e he4e hf4e hg4n
35g Ee5s Db3n Rd2e Re2n
35s Rd5w dd6s dd4s dd3s
36g Ee4w Ed4s dd5s Dg7n
36s ef5s ef4e Hg3w eg4s
37g Rf2e cb5w Db4n Ca3e
37s eg3n eg4w ef4w dd4n
38g Hf3e rb6e rc6x Db5n Ra2n
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #12 on: Apr 13th, 2010, 5:10am » |
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Looks like we've got two serious moves:
1) 34g he5s Ee6s Dg6n Re2e and
2) 34g Re2e Rf2n Rf3n Rd2e
Get ready to vote unless you want to try for 6 voice votes right now. I vote for #1.
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #13 on: Apr 13th, 2010, 9:10am » |
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on Apr 9th, 2010, 6:42pm, Nombril wrote:
Trading dogs does give our extra cat more value, right? |
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Good point!
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Re: Move 34
« Reply #14 on: Apr 13th, 2010, 10:23am » |
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+1 for choice 1.
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