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Hippo
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #15 on: May 11th, 2010, 1:06pm » |
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on May 11th, 2010, 11:34am, Nombril wrote:
36g cb5w Db4n rb6w Db5n
36s ra4b3 Rc4b4 dc5c4
37g rb3e Ca3e Rb4ne
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Wow I have missed the Rb4 advance. It looks dangerous even after 2nd look! Looks we have to look for better 36s.
Or may be
37s rc8 he4 re3?
Or rather
37s rc8 rd3 dc3 dd4c4? ... no
37s rc8 rd3 ef3 xxx (cb5?) ... I am not good at goal attacks 
What would quad think about this race?
Hmmm, may be it is OK for us, but it is so sharp that I cannot be sure with that.
36s ra4b3 Rc4c3 dc5c4?
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A: Ed6s Ed5e Ee5s Rh1n
B: Ed6s Dg7e Dh7s Dh6s
C: cb5w Db4n rb6w Db5n
I consider A and C opened, B seems not to be OK.
A seems to be safe variant while C creating sharp positions to be analysed carefully.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #16 on: May 11th, 2010, 3:33pm » |
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I think Ed6s Ed5e Ee5s Rh1n is best, because cb5w Db4n rb6w Db5n may have a problem that we can't see because it is too complicated, but we know Ed6s Ed5e Ee5s Rh1n will work.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #17 on: May 11th, 2010, 6:57pm » |
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Tonight I'm feeling like a safe move, and support
A: Ed6s Ed5e Ee5s Rh1n
I'm counting 3 votes for that one (722caasi, Hippo, and myself). Others have supported the first three steps, but have suggested alternate 4th steps.
I guess another 4th step would be Dg7e.
Can we still start the "B" moves after this one? I think if we end up with the ehd all around c6, we'll have a tough time keeping anything between that r and the goal.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #18 on: May 12th, 2010, 3:13am » |
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How about 36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n? I don't think silver can afford to move a dog to g5 (but perhaps the horse?). The other logical 36s move would be to flip the Rg4 to f3, but the good thing would be that on next move we could reestablish the Rg4 position and silver wouldn't be able to flip again, like:
36s ef4w Rg4w Rf4s ee4e
37g Ed6s Ed5e Ee5s Rh1n
37s Rc4s dc5s dd4s he3s
38g Hg3s Rf3e Rg3n Hg2n
Also maybe
36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n
36s ef4s Hg3s ef3e rh4s
37g Ed6e Ee6s Ee5e Ef5s
And the h to g5 move, perhaps:
36s he3n he4n he5e hf5e
37g Dg7e Ed6s dd4s Ed5s
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #19 on: May 12th, 2010, 5:27am » |
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on May 12th, 2010, 3:13am, chessandgo wrote:How about 36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n? I don't think silver can afford to move a dog to g5 (but perhaps the horse?). The other logical 36s move would be to flip the Rg4 to f3, but the good thing would be that on next move we could reestablish the Rg4 position and silver wouldn't be able to flip again, like:
36s ef4w Rg4w Rf4s ee4e
37g Ed6s Ed5e Ee5s Rh1n
37s Rc4s dc5s dd4s he3s
38g Hg3s Rf3e Rg3n Hg2n
Also maybe
36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n
36s ef4s Hg3s ef3e rh4s
37g Ed6e Ee6s Ee5e Ef5s
And the h to g5 move, perhaps:
36s he3n he4n he5e hf5e
37g Dg7e Ed6s dd4s Ed5s
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36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n
36s dd4e ef4s Hg3s ef3e
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #20 on: May 12th, 2010, 5:30am » |
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on May 12th, 2010, 3:13am, chessandgo wrote:How about 36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n?
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This looks good to me in that it gives gold initiative on the east side, like what I wanted with bringing the dog back to h5. I think the best response is to bring the silver horse to g5. Then, as C&G suggests we play a home game while silver must babysit the advanced east rabbit. At this point, any rabbit gold inches forward in the center is a threat to the thin silver defense. A good strategic position.
When I first looked at this, I worried about the silver h rabbit breaking through, but I don't see how anymore.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #21 on: May 12th, 2010, 5:37am » |
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on May 12th, 2010, 5:27am, jdb wrote:
36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n
36s dd4e ef4s Hg3s ef3e
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37g Ed6e Ee6s Ee5e Ef5s seems OK.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #22 on: May 12th, 2010, 10:32am » |
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on May 12th, 2010, 3:13am, chessandgo wrote:
36g Hg3s Rh3w Rg3n Hg2n
36s he3n he4n he5e hf5e
37g Dg7e Ed6s dd4s Ed5s
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Seems
37g Dg7e Ed6s cb5w Db4n is even better.
(I am not sure as capturing could be easily prevented if at least one our defensive step is forced)
I like this 36g Rg4
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #23 on: May 12th, 2010, 11:24am » |
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I like getting a rabbit on g4 as well. If the 36s is to put the silver horse over to g5... we had struggled earlier to keep the h from our D. Now we are expecting it... a bit ironic. But it does look like the fastest way to get some goal potential again.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #24 on: May 12th, 2010, 10:32pm » |
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on May 12th, 2010, 11:24am, Nombril wrote:| I like getting a rabbit on g4 as well. If the 36s is to put the silver horse over to g5... we had struggled earlier to keep the h from our D. Now we are expecting it... a bit ironic. But it does look like the fastest way to get some goal potential again. |
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Yes, but now his dogs are more vulnerable.
Yes I would prefere his horse hostaged with our rabbit advanced, but with his phant occupying g3 we would have no more opportunities to flip the rabbit.
I suppose hg5 as strongest answer. Are we OK with it?
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #25 on: May 13th, 2010, 5:09am » |
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on May 12th, 2010, 5:37am, RonWeasley wrote:
37g Ed6e Ee6s Ee5e Ef5s seems OK. |
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Yeah, or even Rc4->d5 maybe (can't see a way to make a difference with this though). After 37g Ed6e Ee6s Ee5e Ef5s silver can flip the Rg4 to h3, maybe that was the point of jdb's different dog step on 36s.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #26 on: May 14th, 2010, 4:25am » |
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With 8 votes, moving the R->g4 wins 5-2 over E->e4, R->h2. For someone, it must have been a tie.
We gained only 7 hours of reserve, so let's stay alert.
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Re: Move 36
« Reply #27 on: May 14th, 2010, 6:02am » |
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on May 14th, 2010, 4:25am, RonWeasley wrote:With 8 votes, moving the R->g4 wins 5-2 over E->e4, R->h2. For someone, it must have been a tie.
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And I know for who 
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