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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #30 on: Apr 21st, 2011, 11:09am » |
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We are getting close to the end of the challenge match. Perhaps the captains can contact Joel to get this rolling.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #31 on: Apr 23rd, 2011, 4:03pm » |
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I just figured out that I should not put a ; in between players. 
I am not sure how this calculator works. I chose 4 people (including myself) and got the top slots for 4 players as a preference of 2. However, upon looking at the slot, it was one that I had not made any selection (i.e. not part of my 60 choices).
How does the calculator handle empty slots? Is there a way to tell the distribution of selections for each slot?
EDIT: I was not looking at the correct select times page.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #32 on: Apr 25th, 2011, 1:52pm » |
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Seeing as in the new League each match will consist of one game, and there are no draws in Arimaa, the current points system lends itself to a tie. Therefore I'd like to propose that we revamp the points system to reward speedy wins.
It could run as follows:
Forfeit
0 points (other team 6 points)
Loss
2 points
Win on or after move 40
5 points
Win on move 30-39
6 points
Win on move 20-29
7 points
Win before move 20
8 points
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #33 on: Apr 25th, 2011, 2:05pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2011, 1:52pm, megajester wrote:| Seeing as in the new League each match will consist of one game |
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Eh? I thought consultation games were being considered as a supplement to the format from last year. I didn't realize the head-to-head games were being scrapped entirely.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #34 on: Apr 25th, 2011, 2:12pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2011, 2:05pm, Fritzlein wrote:
Eh? I thought consultation games were being considered as a supplement to the format from last year. I didn't realize the head-to-head games were being scrapped entirely. |
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Well it's kind of either-or. I don't think we've got enough puff for everything.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #35 on: Apr 25th, 2011, 2:19pm » |
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OK, no problem. I'm personally not as interested in consultation games as in head-to-head matches, but presumably other people feel the reverse, and are looking forward to the change in format this year. I'll be curious to see how it works out!
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #36 on: Jun 20th, 2011, 1:21pm » |
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Following the results of the survey (see my post in the "pilot match" thread), I think collaborative matches will have to be something that's organized separately. Maybe we can have a special event later in the year, or as part of the Festival.
I apologize about the delay in getting this year's League off the ground. If everybody's up for it we can set a start date for the first full week in July, week commencing July 4.
There are a couple of things I'd like to just mention:
- The only changes to the rules are to do with rescheduling. Basically, there won't be any. If you need to reschedule your game you have to agree with your opponent.
- It's time the teams each had a logo. Would anybody like to propose a design for their own team?
- I would like to suggest that we "jazz up" the points system a bit:
Forfeit
0 points (other player 6 points)
Loss
2 points
Win on or after move 40
5 points
Win on move 30-39
6 points
Win on move 20-29
7 points
Win before move 20
8 points
- Also, I'd be very grateful to have some volunteers to help maintain the wiki.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #37 on: Jun 20th, 2011, 4:16pm » |
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on Jun 20th, 2011, 1:21pm, megajester wrote:| I apologize about the delay in getting this year's League off the ground. |
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No worries; thanks for doing it at all. I notice nobody had the initiative to fill your shoes, so you can take satisfaction in knowing there would be no AWL whatsoever without you.
Quote:| rescheduling. Basically, there won't be any. If you need to reschedule your game you have to agree with your opponent. |
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Great change.
Quote:| I would like to suggest that we "jazz up" the points system a bit: |
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How many points for a forfeit win? What about wins on time or resignation?
Quote:| Also, I'd be very grateful to have some volunteers to help maintain the wiki. |
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I can help some, but my availability will be sporadic and unreliable.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #38 on: Jun 20th, 2011, 8:07pm » |
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on Jun 20th, 2011, 4:16pm, Fritzlein wrote:
How many points for a forfeit win? What about wins on time or resignation?
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I suggest
Loss on time
1 point
Win on time or resignation after move 30
5 points
Win on time or resignation move 20-29
6 points
Win on time or resignation before move 20
7 points
Loss on resignation is a forfeit, loss on time should't be a forfeit because sometimes the time just passes by without noticing and is not bad sportmanship or anything wrong so is better than resignation, I'm aware that some players may lose on time to get the point when they are really just resigning but lets hope this doesn't happens to often (even if it happens it is still better than a forfeit by not arriving to the game).
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #39 on: Jun 20th, 2011, 11:06pm » |
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on Jun 20th, 2011, 1:21pm, megajester wrote:
If everybody's up for it we can set a start date for the first full week in July, week commencing July 4.
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Starting the week of July 4 may be too early. At least two active members of my team (the Rockies) will be on vacation then. Other members have not been at the site recently. Hopefully we can get old members to return or new members to join, but at this time it seems safer to delay the start by two weeks or so.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #40 on: Jun 20th, 2011, 11:17pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2011, 2:19pm, Fritzlein wrote:| OK, no problem. I'm personally not as interested in consultation games as in head-to-head matches, but presumably other people feel the reverse, and are looking forward to the change in format this year. I'll be curious to see how it works out! |
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I am trying to follow this thread and it doesn't make sense. Are we doing head-to-head or collaborative?
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #41 on: Jun 21st, 2011, 12:29am » |
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on Jun 20th, 2011, 11:17pm, mistre wrote:| I am trying to follow this thread and it doesn't make sense. Are we doing head-to-head or collaborative? |
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Megajester took a poll and it came out in favor of head-to-head (results posted elsewhere), so it will be basically the old format.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #42 on: Jun 21st, 2011, 12:36am » |
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Suggestion: I think we should forbid team-hopping midseason, but I recommend allowing it up to the first week, or even the second week for folks who didn't play the first week. I am afraid that teams will have players returning unequally from past seasons, which could mean too little playing time for those on the crowded teams (Europa and the Atlantics?) and forfeits for the sparse teams (Ring of Fire and the Rockies?).
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #43 on: Jun 21st, 2011, 1:06am » |
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Wow! Great response!
OK I'll try to answer the points one by one:
THE POINTS SYSTEM
I suppose Eltripas is right that a possible 8 points is perhaps too much. However I'm not sure about the exact move numbers that should be assigned to each level. I agree that a forfeit because of failing to show up should be treated differently to a forfeit on time.
So the revised points system would be as follows:
Forfeit (through being absent)
0 points
Loss on time or resignation
1 point
Loss through play
2 points
Win by forfeit
6 points
Win on or after move 41
5 points
Win on move 21-40
6 points
Win before move 21
7 points
Note: A "win" is a win whether it's through play, opponent resignation or on time.
START DATE
Is everybody happy with the week commencing July 18?
TRANSFERS
How about we say that once a player has played a league game he can't change teams?
PS: Mistre, I had linked to the survey results in my opening post, just click on the coloured text.
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Re: AWL 2011 Comments and Suggestions (Planning St
« Reply #44 on: Jun 21st, 2011, 9:21am » |
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on Jun 21st, 2011, 12:29am, Fritzlein wrote:
Megajester took a poll and it came out in favor of head-to-head (results posted elsewhere), so it will be basically the old format. |
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Duh, I should have checked the date of your post Fritz (Apr 25) which is before the poll took place. I was confused because I read your comment as if it happened after the poll.
I am also on vacation right now and will be back in time for a July 18 start date.
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