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UruramTururam
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #90 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:20am » |
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OK, so we are to decide who goes first using a fair way.
I propose the following: Today is June 22nd. Let us take the last digit before the decimal point of tomorrow (June 23rd) morning London Gold Fix in USD - it is a public data we all can see. Today morning fix is 1546.00 (you can check it here: http://www.goldfixing.com/test2.htm ), so the last digit is 6.
For the tomorrow morning last digit if it's even than the Mob is Gold if it's odd than the Gang is Gold.
Could it be like that?
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #91 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:38am » |
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Well, seeing as TheMob is rated 1500 and TheGang 1400, I suggest we figure out which of Gold and Silver has the advantage, and give it to TheGang...  But really, colors don't matter; noone's figured out how to exploit a color.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #92 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:38am » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2011, 8:10am, Nazgand wrote:As for when we start, I think as soon as TheGang has 6 members.
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I stand by my comments at the beginning of the thread; six people is way too few for a Mob discussion. Even ten is thin; I was only happy to start with ten on a team on the hope that more would join in later when the game is announced/linked in the game room.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to have some practice posts of text, not to mention practice use of the analysis tool, before the clock starts ticking down. I just went to the Mob page (Move 1) and it was completely blank. My first post didn't show up, and I couldn't figure out why until I saw that I had entered my text as the edit comment.  It's not rocket science, but I expect it will take a bit to get our bearings.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #93 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:42am » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:20am, UruramTururam wrote:OK, so we are to decide who goes first using a fair way.
I propose the following: Today is June 22nd. Let us take the last digit before the decimal point of tomorrow (June 23rd) morning London Gold Fix in USD - it is a public data we all can see. Today morning fix is 1546.00 (you can check it here: http://www.goldfixing.com/test2.htm ), so the last digit is 6.
For the tomorrow morning last digit if it's even than the Mob is Gold if it's odd than the Gang is Gold.
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First we should flip a coin to decide whether we use the London Gold Fix or the London Silver Fix.  Just kidding; that sounds like a very fair and reasonable way to flip a coin in public. It's not like I'm going to buy/sell a bunch of gold in order to set the price and make sure the Mob gets to play Gold.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #94 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 10:20am » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2011, 6:18am, chessandgo wrote:| So we are the gang. I think Quebecois use the word "gang" quite liberally, often meaning something like "band of friends". I suppose the same goes in English. In French though the word only stands for a gang of criminals, it feels super weird when someone says "Great, I'm a gangster now" |
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I don't think there are any positive connotations to "mob", and in current urban slang it is far more hip to be a gangster (gangsta) than a mobster, so you probably have the cooler name of the two.  My fondness for belonging to the mob comes from its association with the adjective "unruly", i.e. a mob is almost automatically an "unruly mob", except in connection with organized crime.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #95 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 10:50am » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:38am, Fritzlein wrote:
I stand by my comments at the beginning of the thread; six people is way too few for a Mob discussion. Even ten is thin; I was only happy to start with ten on a team on the hope that more would join in later when the game is announced/linked in the game room.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to have some practice posts of text, not to mention practice use of the analysis tool, before the clock starts ticking down. I just went to the Mob page (Move 1) and it was completely blank. My first post didn't show up, and I couldn't figure out why until I saw that I had entered my text as the edit comment. It's not rocket science, but I expect it will take a bit to get our bearings. |
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I'm with Fritz on this one. As the admin, I need time to acclimate myself to the new site. Plus, I still need the email and password to the mob account from RonWeasley and instructions on how to use the voting tool.
Let's at least get the original members who expressed interest signed up at PBworks (among other things) before we even think about starting the game.
Also, I will ask Omar if he can start publicizing the event on the main page to drum up interest.
My last reason for delaying a bit is that I am currently on vacation and I don't feel comfortable putting us on the clock at this point. (not to mention I have several postal games going on).
How about we start this in conjunction with the AWL on July 18th? I know there are some of you ready to go now, but I don't want to rush things. The earliest I would be comfortable starting would be July 11th.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #96 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 11:37am » |
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I also hope Ron explains us the voting tool usage.
I hope I would be available expect one week in August. Yes, it's true that I would have small amount of time for thinking during the openning as the mixer consumes a lot of my time. So I welcome delay start to 11 July (or a bit later).
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #97 on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 2:24pm » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2011, 10:50am, mistre wrote:| How about we start this in conjunction with the AWL on July 18th? I know there are some of you ready to go now, but I don't want to rush things. The earliest I would be comfortable starting would be July 11th. |
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I'm on vacation July 1-17, so a July 18 start works for me too.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #98 on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:29am » |
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on Jun 22nd, 2011, 9:20am, UruramTururam wrote:OK, so we are to decide who goes first using a fair way.
I propose the following: Today is June 22nd. Let us take the last digit before the decimal point of tomorrow (June 23rd) morning London Gold Fix in USD - it is a public data we all can see. Today morning fix is 1546.00 (you can check it here: http://www.goldfixing.com/test2.htm ), so the last digit is 6.
For the tomorrow morning last digit if it's even than the Mob is Gold if it's odd than the Gang is Gold.
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The June 23 morning London Gold Fix was $1541.50. The last digit before the decimal is 1, so it is odd, so The Gang is Gold. In one sense that's too bad, because the The Mob was starting to have an interesting discussion on how to set up as Gold. On the other hand, it's good, because now The Mob will have the advantage of playing Silver.
Has the discussion started yet on The Gang side? If not, let me mention that in The Mob we are mostly discussing using the "comment" feature rather than the Wiki per se. The comments are signed and kept in order. Perhaps when we have some distilled wisdom, like a FAQ or an analysis tree, that can be enshrined in the Wiki proper.
I quite enjoy the automatic e-mail notifications that PBWiki sends out for modifications. I don't think it is going to take me long to get used to having discussions over there.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #99 on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 12:28pm » |
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The gang didn't start discussing the initial setup yet.
(As we expected to play silver )
So if it's given we are gold ... we could start discussing.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #100 on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 1:26pm » |
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The Gang needs to get on the stick. Over at The Mob we are figuring out how to use clojure's tool to pass an analysis tree via the Wiki page. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work properly for variations of the setup. I'm sure there will be other small bugs that pop up as well.
Perhaps once the game starts and he sees that his tool is in use, clojure could be persuaded to return to active development. It is a truly fabulous gift he has given to the community already.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #101 on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:57pm » |
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on Jun 21st, 2011, 2:56pm, Fritzlein wrote:| I think it is fine to divide the teams that way, allowing people to switch before the game starts if they want to. |
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I have applied and been accepted as a mobster. I like to mix things up, and also I'm looking forward to benefiting from Fritzlein's informative and logical verbosity.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #102 on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 11:55pm » |
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Swynndla, I am glad you recognize the innate superiority of the United States of America even before the game begins. As for the rest of the schmucks out there who haven't yet seen the light, well, we will just have to convince them over the board. 
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #103 on: Jun 24th, 2011, 8:31am » |
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I have renamed the Move 1 page in the PbWorks site to pre-game discussion.
I have created a new page called Move 1, which we can use once we actually start the game. Hopefully that will help newcomers to the page not get confused. 
I have also added a separate page to discuss the use of the Analysis Tool.
I can add other pages by request.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #104 on: Jun 24th, 2011, 8:07pm » |
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Just posting here so when I send my application to the gang the admin knows i'm a real person/player.
i'm looking forward to the same extent I'm bad at Arimaa. That is, I'm looking forward to this very, very much.
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