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Fritzlein
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #60 on: Feb 13th, 2012, 7:31am » |
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on Feb 13th, 2012, 6:40am, Adanac wrote:What will the next pairings be in the 4 possible scenarios from round 6? |
| I don't know for sure, but my rough guess is that you play each of your four remaining opponents in one of the four scenarios. How's that for unhelpful? [edit] Yep, rbarriera verifies here: http://pastebin.com/UNQsQSwN You could play anyone next round!
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #61 on: Feb 13th, 2012, 9:08am » |
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on Feb 13th, 2012, 7:31am, Fritzlein wrote: I don't know for sure, but my rough guess is that you play each of your four remaining opponents in one of the four scenarios. How's that for unhelpful? [edit] Yep, rbarriera verifies here: http://pastebin.com/UNQsQSwN You could play anyone next round! |
| Wow, in the statistically most-likely scenario I will be playing Jean again in round 7 No pressure on me at all So hanzack needs me to lose for him to receive a round 7 bye and I need hanzack to win to avoid a 3rd straight round of Fritzlein-chessandgo-chessandgo or Fritzlein-chessandgo-Fritzlein. And I notice that if Fritzlein & I both win this round the four survivors will all have a 4-1 record. So nobody is assured at least a 3rd place finish yet?
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Fritzlein
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #62 on: Feb 13th, 2012, 11:55am » |
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on Feb 13th, 2012, 9:08am, Adanac wrote:And I notice that if Fritzlein & I both win this round the four survivors will all have a 4-1 record. So nobody is assured at least a 3rd place finish yet? |
| Yes, I guess I jumped the gun to say hanzack had at least third place wrapped up, although he could easily take third without winning another game.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #63 on: Feb 13th, 2012, 12:06pm » |
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I think I'm going to enjoy having a week off while the rest of you play another game Adanac, I came to the same conclusion about guaranteed top 3 finishes...seems noone is guaranteed. (But keep in mind our actual tournament only recognizes a first place finisher...it seems many are eager to recognize 2nd/3rd, so that should be a consideration for next year's format) I noticed aaaa in the chat room mention that the TFE format has been receiving undue criticism. I hope my comments can lead to constructive tweaks - I certainly like it better then a format where initial seeds always get the lowest remaining seeded player, etc. (PS Adanac, I do have hours available later in the day on Feb 27th, in case we end up paired.)
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #64 on: Feb 13th, 2012, 12:13pm » |
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on Feb 13th, 2012, 6:40am, Adanac wrote:Monday, February 27th is by far the most convenient day for me to play in round 7 but if my possible opponents can't play that day I'll have to move my schedule around in advance. Thanks |
| For the record, I can't play on the 27th, and have none of the slots checked even as an emergency lowest preference, so if it is looking like we will be paired, start scrambling.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #65 on: Feb 13th, 2012, 12:16pm » |
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on Feb 13th, 2012, 12:13pm, Fritzlein wrote: For the record, I can't play on the 27th, and have none of the slots checked even as an emergency lowest preference, so if it is looking like we will be paired, start scrambling. |
| OK, thanks for letting me know. The silver lining is that I'll only encounter this particular dilemma after a victory. And if hanzack & I both pull off upsets then I'll play Nombril who is free that day.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #66 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 12:44pm » |
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Well, at least I put on a good show while going down in flames. Hanzack's victory over me had 48 peak radio viewers, not only a record for the tournament, but a record for all time. Also there were 32 in chat and 48 in the gameroom (not a record).
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #67 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 2:26pm » |
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Hanzack is a relatively unknown player to people with a rating of less than 1900 (due to an artificially deflated rating) and so the fact that he is unbeaten while facing all of the "unbeatable" opponents is raising everyone's hopes that they can be #1 at some point. Also his play style seems to be very unique which is why I personally am eager to watch his games.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #68 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 3:35pm » |
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Yeah, hanzack is a great story. The mystery man, of unknown ability, signing up at the last minute, and in all three of his games against "unbeatable" players, coming back from a worse position to win. The best part is that while chessandgo, Adanac, and I were playing only sporadically throughout the year, hanzack was playing incessantly. From this I infer: (1) Hard work pays off. (2) Playing against strong bots pays off, at least if you intentionally win with a variety of crazy styles like hanzack does, rather than relying on the same safe method to win over and over.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #69 on: Feb 20th, 2012, 5:40am » |
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From the chat archive (NZ time): 2011-11-07 19:35:36 froody last I saw it seems like c&g was untouchable 2011-11-07 19:36:17 Swynndla but Hanzack might beat him ... see I'm a talent spotter!
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #70 on: Feb 20th, 2012, 7:45am » |
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on Feb 19th, 2012, 3:35pm, Fritzlein wrote:Yeah, hanzack is a great story. The mystery man, of unknown ability, signing up at the last minute, and in all three of his games against "unbeatable" players, coming back from a worse position to win. |
| Maybe it is time to revisit this thread? http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=events;action=display; num=1323851616
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #71 on: Feb 20th, 2012, 10:51am » |
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on Feb 20th, 2012, 7:45am, mistre wrote: Haha. Probably froody is going to show up and claim that he won his $100 bet with me, because it wasn't actually hanzack winning the World Championship, it was froody in disguise, or a cyborg hanzack/froody/computer team. Of course, since froody didn't even register for the World Championship, he still owes me $1, but I've given up on collecting it. I doubt we'll ever hear from him again.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #72 on: Feb 21st, 2012, 7:52pm » |
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I've finalized the schedule for round 7. The time for Adanac vs Nombril is at 3pm EST on Monday. Is this really what the players wanted or was there a problem?
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #73 on: Feb 21st, 2012, 8:34pm » |
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on Feb 21st, 2012, 7:52pm, omar wrote:I've finalized the schedule for round 7. The time for Adanac vs Nombril is at 3pm EST on Monday. Is this really what the players wanted or was there a problem? |
| Judging from chat, they would have opted for an even later time on Monday, but it wasn't within the schedule window.
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Re: 2012 World Championship
« Reply #74 on: Feb 22nd, 2012, 6:47am » |
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Thanks for checking. That's going to be hard to cover, but I hope someone will provide commentary for it. I've updated the spreadsheet. Please sign up if you can. Thanks.
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