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(Message started by: Nombril on Dec 27th, 2011, 7:27pm)
Title: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Nombril on Dec 27th, 2011, 7:27pm
Hi everyone,
With the new year just around the corner, I thought it would be worth checking to who had time and energy to pitch in to support the 2012 World Championship activities.  Here are some things I've remembered from previous years.

The website lists the following positions as unfilled, though maybe Omar has already arranged something that I don't know about.  I've mentioned who has done it in the past, if folks have questions about what is required for those two positions the previous people can probably give a better description then me.  Or maybe they want to do it again? (update... Mark is the TD, just need the lead Event Reporter)

Tournament Director: TBD (Previously Ned Bent)      Mark Mistretta

Event Reporter: TBD (Previously Greg Magne)

Other things that will need doing:

Radio:
* Host the relay (I'm assuming we want 2-3 people for this)
* Provide commentary (not just deep analysis, you don't have to be a top player to ask questions and provide impressions.)
* Make audio and/or combined audio/video recordings

Wiki (event reporting):
The official Event Reporter who is organizing the coverage will need:
* Many people to write up a game or two each round

Tournament:
* I assume Omar will be the primary person for scheduling the rounds, unless he wants to delegate that?
* Secondary person to be responsible for rescheduling games.

Publicity:
* Write copy for small forum posts
* Create pdf flier for email and physical announcement board posting, etc.

Sponsors:
* Is it too late to round up a few more sponsorships?

Server Support:
I recall some discussion of a back up person being trained up on restarting the server or anything else that may need doing during an event.  Did anyone ever volunteer for this role in general, that will also be available during the WC so Omar isn't "on call" 24/7 ?

Anything else?  Any volunteers?

I'll start :) I can probably write up 1 game each round and could be available to do the rescheduling.  I think I remember how the tournament tool works after running a few Swiss tournaments last year.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by mistre on Dec 27th, 2011, 7:32pm
Omar already asked me if I would serve as the tournament director and I accepted...
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Dec 28th, 2011, 2:40pm
Eric, thanks for posting this. It's good to have this organized list of tasks that people can volunteer for. Hopefully people can find things that they can help with and step forward. The past Arimaa events would not have turned out as good as they did without the help of the community.

Here are my thought on some of these items:
1. Writing game summaries for the wiki. Greg has usually done most on this in the past. I'm sure he would appreciate more help from the community. This does require one to have some advanced level understanding of Arimaa; maybe 1800+ and good writing skills.
2. Providing commentary on the games. It would be great to have commentary on all the games this year since the number of games will be much less than last year. As Eric mentioned you don't have to be a top rated player to help. It would be good to have two commentators during the games; one that is rated at least as good as the players and can provide some insight to the moves and another to do the intro and closing comments, ask questions, give general impressions and thoughts, keep an eye on the chat room questions, and update the listeners on the current status of the game. The rating of the second commentator (anchor) does not matter. Having more than one commentator allows each one to have a little break while the other is talking and avoids dead air.
3. Helping with publicity of the event. Most everyone is involved with other communities and probably have accounts on other forums. Posting a message about the event or an upcoming game in the appropriate section of a forum that you have an account on would be a great way to help more people learn about Arimaa and experience the event. We accept such posts in the 'Off Topic' section of this site and postings by members who are both part of the Arimaa community and other communities have helped us learn about other sites and events. So I am sure similar postings about Arimaa on other sites would be considered appropriate.
4. I have not put any effort this year into trying to find sponsors. I had other things going on and didn't get to work on this. But it's not too late. If anyone could help with this or help with making introductions that would be great.
5. I will be making a video recording of each game, but sometimes I find out after the game that my recording did not turn out right. So it would be great to have someone else also recording the games as a backup.
6. As the tournament coordinator I will schedule the games and keep the tournament moving. Since the tournament can now be run using the tournament management tool, it would be good to have a backup who is also familiar with this tool.

Mark, sorry I forgot to update the event pages to add you as the TD. I just did that now. Thanks for helping out with this.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Dec 29th, 2011, 2:36am

on 12/27/11 at 19:27:41, Nombril wrote:
Other things that will need doing:

Radio:
* Host the relay (I'm assuming we want 2-3 people for this)
* Provide commentary (not just deep analysis, you don't have to be a top player to ask questions and provide impressions.)
* Make audio and/or combined audio/video recordings


I can help with these 3 items.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Dec 29th, 2011, 10:07am
I'm not going to be able to do anything during the month of January, except maybe do a radio commentary or two if the time is just right.  I'm not even expecting to spectate much, unfortunately.

Luckily, February should be a good month for me and I plan to help with commentary and the Wiki.  Since the tournament doesn't begin until January 11th, that means I should be OK for the 4th week.

Today's not too busy at the office so I'll create the tournament page on the Wiki with some player information.


UPDATE:  Here's what I have so far.  This will probably be my only contribution until the month of February.
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/2012_World_Championship
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Nombril on Jan 4th, 2012, 12:34am
Thanks to all the early volunteers!  If we want to increase the prize fund at all, we have a few days to try and line up a few sponsors.  Sponsors can contribute to the prize fund and (/or ?) provide gift certificates/discounts to the participates.  In return, they are listed/linked on the website and during commentaries.

I've updated this spreadsheet http://goo.gl/5SGmc with the various roles and who has volunteered so far.  Feel free to add your name directly to the spreadsheet on the General Planning tab.

I also added a tab for AV instructions - I know there are various postings in different forums for preferred software and settings.  If someone familiar with the topic has a few minutes, it might be easier to find the information if it was copied over to this location for reference.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 5th, 2012, 5:07pm
I will be back in school before long, but if all goes well I will have some time to volunteer.  My hunch is that I should stick to live commentary only, reserving all of my spare Arimaa time for that, and leaving other tasks undone if that's how it turns out.  But is live commentary really most important?

Would it be better to have video capture of every commentated game, but fewer such games, than to have more commentated games, some of which aren't recorded for posterity?  In past years, Adanac has done a terrific job of making a permanent text record; should we divert some attention from video to keep up the text tradition, or should we let it fall by the wayside to maximize the live experience?  And as far as publicity goes, what is the right balance between trying to draw people in as opposed to putting on a good show for people already interested in the games?

Absent any persuasion I will do as much live commentary as I can, and not flinch if that commentary is unrecorded, undocumented, and/or unpublicized. And if school keeps me too busy, it will be a moot point, as I will do nothing of anything, except play my games. :-/

I suppose the most relevant question is how much time Omar will have for tasks apart from keeping the server up and running.  We probably shouldn't count on him for much more than that given that he's still responding to the forum only sporadically, despite the approaching tournaments.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Nombril on Jan 5th, 2012, 8:26pm
Fritz, I think it is reasonable for you to focus on the live commentary.  I recall last year a number of people that weren't terribly eager to be recorded talking live, but happy to help with the recording.  I'm hoping they just aren't planning that far ahead to have signed up for it.

I would love to have a poster to hang up in the ACM lounge on campus.  Were any of the script and graphics arts people involved with the "how to play Arimaa" video interested in putting something together for that?

I'll do what I can to help with the Wiki, I know I've enjoyed the written record of what is happening.  If anyone wants to be the official event reporter, they are welcome to be in charge.  Otherwise it might end up being me?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Hippo on Jan 6th, 2012, 2:16am
I could try to write some commentary (ocassionaly), but if so, I would need/welcome anybody to correct my English. I am not sure if that would be helpful at all ... isn't writing it from scratch for some native speaker easier.

If a game would be played in suitable time, I would gladly chat/voice comment. If there would be native speaker-comentator (and I expect there would be), I would prefere chatting.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Nombril on Jan 6th, 2012, 8:29am
Hippo -  I think for both the written and vocal media - the people in this community are much more interested in the ideas then the grammar!  I think the past it was even pitched as a good opportunity to practice English.

I'd be happy to check anything you want to write.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Hippo on Jan 6th, 2012, 10:38am

on 01/06/12 at 08:29:46, Nombril wrote:
Hippo -  I think for both the written and vocal media - the people in this community are much more interested in the ideas then the grammar!  I think the past it was even pitched as a good opportunity to practice English.

I'd be happy to check anything you want to write.

Oh thanks, you are that polite ;). OK I will try ...
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 7th, 2012, 12:39pm
I've uploaded the settings that I use to do the game recordings:

http://arimaa.com/arimaa/videos/ZDSoftSettings.pdf

I'll try to do recordings of all games, but that shouldn't deter others from recording also, since my recording could turn out bad or not as good as someone elses. Recordings can be uploaded to:
 http://arimaa.com/arimaa/ftp
into the 2012 WC folder. The naming convention we've used in the past is:
  R1-woh-Tuks.avi
Basically the round number, gold player, silver player and type of file.

I'll also try to help out with the commentary as needed.

I think commentary is really important because it captures the excitement of the game. Also the write up of the games in the wiki is important as well. Remember these are some of the highest quality live games among our top rated players. Whatever we record now is all that will be saved about the event for the future.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by aaaa on Jan 8th, 2012, 9:54am
I'll take care of the result tables on the wiki.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 11th, 2012, 7:31am
I can volunteer for commentary on the Simon-Tuks game.  I'll fill in the spreadsheet once the R1 sheet is up.

Are we going to have 3 separate channels on TeamSpeak, since the first 3 games could be in progress simultaneously?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Tuks on Jan 11th, 2012, 8:05am
hey adanac, in one of tables its show me and Simon as haing a 0-0 past when in fact i beat him last year in the final 8, i would correct it myself but the login has been changed i think
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 11th, 2012, 8:54am

on 01/11/12 at 08:05:16, Tuks wrote:
hey adanac, in one of tables its show me and Simon as haing a 0-0 past when in fact i beat him last year in the final 8, i would correct it myself but the login has been changed i think


OK, it's fixed.  That game was in the wrong column, shown as Nombril-Simon when it should have been Simon-Tuks.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 11th, 2012, 10:12am

on 01/11/12 at 07:31:45, Adanac wrote:
I can volunteer for commentary on the Simon-Tuks game.  I'll fill in the spreadsheet once the R1 sheet is up.

Are we going to have 3 separate channels on TeamSpeak, since the first 3 games could be in progress simultaneously?


I can join you for the first hour of the game, and then jump in another channel for one of the other two games. Also, if we're short of commentators, we can also have one team of commentators switching periodically between the different games (in chess tournaments it used to be like this, at some point one commentator would say "ok, let's focus on this other game now", and they would start speaking about how it evolved since they last spoke of it, follow it for a while, and then jump to another game. It was actually not unpleasant at all for spectators, maybe because of the slow pace of the games)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by rbarreira on Jan 11th, 2012, 10:45am
As a member of the audience I think I would be more interested in hearing the same commentators discuss the three games, although it has disadvantages too.

Big picture-wise, there may not be enough audience for all the three games.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Hippo on Jan 11th, 2012, 12:16pm
I would be on mobile connection in Mountains so my Teamspeak connection would be probably poor.
I would rather concentrate on wiki ...
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 11th, 2012, 2:28pm

on 01/11/12 at 10:45:09, rbarreira wrote:
As a member of the audience I think I would be more interested in hearing the same commentators discuss the three games, although it has disadvantages too.

Big picture-wise, there may not be enough audience for all the three games.


I was hoping to just commentate one game this week, but OK (why not) I'd be up for the challenge of trying 3 games simultaneously  ;D  It might only be 2 simultaneously because the first game could certainly end within 40 moves.  We would need at least 2/3 commentators, maybe with one player keeping an eye on other games while the other commentator(s) discuss the current one.

Would it be a challenge to synchronize the video with the audio for the archives?  Should the video have 3 games screens simultaneously or rotate through the active games as they're discussed?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 11th, 2012, 3:20pm

on 01/11/12 at 14:28:28, Adanac wrote:
We would need at least 2/3 commentators, maybe with one player keeping an eye on other games while the other commentator(s) discuss the current one.

Yes, ideally two commentators and an anchor to keep passing around the baton.  Unfortunately, I might be busy Saturday morning, so I might not get to spectate or commentate. :'(
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by SpeedRazor on Jan 11th, 2012, 3:26pm

on 01/11/12 at 10:45:09, rbarreira wrote:
Big picture-wise, there may not be enough audience for all the three games.

But there will be!  Maybe not now, but this is being recorded for posterity.  In the 4th millennium, this will be huge! "Teacher:  how did they NOT know how significant a contribution to abstract game strategy Arimaa was at the time, computer-wise?  Oh yeah, they were neanderthals back then.  Thanks ... back to kindergarten class."  

Arimaa is destined to be a monster (in the future).  Fritzlein's book:  an archeological gem; Z-Man's Arimmaa version?  Gold.

Tata Steel chess tournament in Wie Aan Zee will be going on at the same time.  But when I get out of classes:  I'm watching/playing over the Arimaa World Championship games, first.

That's my idea of "The Big Picture".  
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 11th, 2012, 5:07pm
We might get huge numbers of new spectators on the weekend as a result of today's XKCD phenomenon.  Commentators should check out who's in the gameroom and commentate accordingly.  i.e. we may need to explain what a frame is and why it's bad, etc. if the majority of the audience is brand new to Arimaa.  That would be difficult to do unless we split the commentary into 3 separate channels for the first 3 games.

However, I suspect that most new players are just testing the game out for fun and aren't ready to jump into World Championship spectating yet.  In that case, we'll still have small-medium audiences on Saturday and we can still try out the simultaneous broadcasts, if that's what people want.  I'd be willing to try it out as an experiment.  It doesn't hurt to try new ideas.  Is it possible to link the radio to all 3 games and record the total number of unique listeners?

I agree with SpeedRazor that these early World Championship games will be gold for future fans of the game.  But we've already given them dozens of nuggets in the past ;)  It wouldn't hurt to try something different if that's what today's spectators want.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by 99of9 on Jan 11th, 2012, 8:36pm
Sorry, I'm unlikely to be able to commentate this week because all the games are during my usual sleeping hours!

xkcd, cool!  The only one that made me laugh was snakes and ladders.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 12th, 2012, 6:13pm

on 01/11/12 at 14:28:28, Adanac wrote:
I was hoping to just commentate one game this week, but OK (why not) I'd be up for the challenge of trying 3 games simultaneously  ;D

Greg, I have added you as a commentator for Simon vs. Tuks.  I wish I had thought to do that earlier, so that the flood of newcomers would have seen it announced in game room announcements, but better late than never.  If you would rather be listed as commentator for a different game, or for additional games, or not at all, just post here and I will change it.

By the way, has someone volunteered to be radio czar?  If I'm not available for commentary Saturday morning, I'm probably also not available for making sure the radio relay is working.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 13th, 2012, 6:11am

on 01/12/12 at 18:13:19, Fritzlein wrote:
Greg, I have added you as a commentator for Simon vs. Tuks.  I wish I had thought to do that earlier, so that the flood of newcomers would have seen it announced in game room announcements, but better late than never.  If you would rather be listed as commentator for a different game, or for additional games, or not at all, just post here and I will change it.

By the way, has someone volunteered to be radio czar?  If I'm not available for commentary Saturday morning, I'm probably also not available for making sure the radio relay is working.


Thanks Fritz!  Since we're not getting a lot of volunteers for Saturday morning commentary (or afternoon in Europe -- and certain Australians aren't willing to commentate at 3am ;D) , I'm still leaning towards one big simultaneous broadcast for all the commentators.  I only see Jean and I so far as volunteers but I'm sure we can pull it off.  I expect 2 commentators doing 3 games will be easier than even a single solo commentary (which I sometimes find difficult, sometimes not).

If we go this route, we should try to show up 1 hour before Simon-Tuks so that we have time to test the recording capabilities.  Maybe create 3 dummy games and test whether we can get a radio relay to all 3 games simultaneously.  Also, although it's a lot of work for whoever is recording, maybe we can cycle the active games in the video file to be in sync with the commentary.  It won't look very good in the archives if we're talking about a different game than what is shown on the screen.

I think having a good archive file is important.  If it's too complicated to have one simultaneous broadcast then we should just have 3 different channels with 3 different recordings.  Jean originally indicated he would do the Nombril-Woh game.  And since I'm already committed to doing a whole morning broadcast, I could commentate on Tuks-Simon and then help co-commentate one of the later games.  We'd still need at least 1 more commentator for Rabbits-Hanzack (that's an important one ;)) in that scenario.

One last thought: We need to have time for interviews, which might occur in the middle of a simultaneous broadcast.  So if Nombril or Tuks, or anybody else wants to do a post-game interview, just come into TeamSpeak as usual and I'm sure we'll be able to find an appropriate time to discuss that recently completed game.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 13th, 2012, 6:41am

on 01/13/12 at 06:11:47, Adanac wrote:
Jean originally indicated he would do the Nombril-Woh game.


Arrr, did I? :)
As for the radio Czar thing, I'd like to learn. Is there a written ressource that explains how this works? Or would you have time to explain it in TS later today? The video recording (if we have one commentary for all 3 games) is yet another issue, I suppose the simplest way would be to record a single video file with all three games "side by side" and then edit it to show the appropriate board at the right time. The hardest (but without as much post-recording headache) would be for the recorder to jungle manually with the board during the recording. I could do that, but maybe it'd be even better if a non-commentator did it.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by thomastanck on Jan 13th, 2012, 6:41am
I will be watching the game (and burning midnight oil) so if we need more ppl to relay the radio, I can do that. I don't know what I need to do though.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 13th, 2012, 7:17am

on 01/13/12 at 06:41:07, chessandgo wrote:
Arrr, did I? :)



on 01/11/12 at 10:12:41, chessandgo wrote:
I can join you for the first hour of the game, and then jump in another channel for one of the other two games.


I'm not a lawyer or anything but you indirectly said you'd commentate Nombril-Woh when you said you'd jump into another channel 1 hour after the Tuks-Simon game :)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 13th, 2012, 8:13am
when you state it that way ... :)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 13th, 2012, 8:17am

on 01/12/12 at 18:13:19, Fritzlein wrote:
Greg, I have added you as a commentator for Simon vs. Tuks.  .


By the way, you can mention live commentary for woh vs Nombril and hanzack vs rabbits, at least Greg and I should be there. I fear I won't be there for ocmiente vs Adanac, but I hope I'll be able to commentate Fritzlein vs Harren.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 13th, 2012, 9:42am
Thanks to whoever updated the radio commentary page with the additional games.  It wasn't parsing correctly because of the "vs"; I took those out and now all games show in announcements as having live commentary.

It is looking less and less likely that I will be able to participate Saturday morning.  Sorry, guys!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 13th, 2012, 11:34am
Jean I've added you for commentary on the three games you mentioned. But I think you will only be able to do two of them, since the first three games are starting just one hour apart. We will most likely have a situation where multiple games are going on simultaneously. So please go to the Volunteers Spreadsheet, select the 'R1' tab and enter what games you would like to commentate on.

Here is the link to the spreadsheet:
http://goo.gl/5SGmc
It is also linked in the gameroom announcements.

If we have commentators signed up for multiple simultaneous games then I will setup some more rooms in TS. We will probably need multiple people doing the relay; one for each room. Also multiple people doing the recordings; at least one for each game. Lets use the spreadsheet to coordinate.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 13th, 2012, 11:36am

on 01/13/12 at 09:42:00, Fritzlein wrote:
Thanks to whoever updated the radio commentary page with the additional games.  It wasn't parsing correctly because of the "vs"; I took those out and now all games show in announcements as having live commentary.

It is looking less and less likely that I will be able to participate Saturday morning.  Sorry, guys!


That was me. Thanks for fixing it.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 13th, 2012, 1:06pm
Oh, you will relay and record, Omar, excellent. There's only two of us so far though. If we get 6+ commentators we can easily have a channel per game. With 4-5 it's an option. Even with 3 I'd say it's better to just make one team that talks about all games. If no else one volunteers until tomorrow we won't have a choice :)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 13th, 2012, 6:31pm

on 01/13/12 at 11:34:28, omar wrote:
We will probably need multiple people doing the relay; one for each room.

Can more than one relay be broadcast through the Arimaa radio server at the same time?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 15th, 2012, 8:14am

on 01/13/12 at 08:17:11, chessandgo wrote:
but I hope I'll be able to commentate Fritzlein vs Harren.

I won't be able to commentate this game unfortunately :( sorry.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 17th, 2012, 8:46pm
I can commentate Sunday morning, Nombril vs. chessandgo and (probably overlapping) Tuks vs. Adanac.  Co-commentators are welcome.  I am willing to focus on the first game while someone else covers the second, but that actually requires a three-man commentary team: one for each game and an anchor to pass control back and forth.  (I am assuming that Arimaa radio can only broadcast one audio stream, even though Omar has never explicitly confirmed this and even implied the contrary.)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by thomastanck on Jan 17th, 2012, 9:00pm
As far as I know, "whatever channel omar is in is the channel that broadcasts", so I think with some coding it shouldn't be hard to have it run 2 channels. Only server side problems should exist...

^-- warning: My thoughts from limited knowledge...

Anyway, thanks Fritzlein for volunteering! I think commentary is very exciting and gives me insight into what the game is about, because games are very fuzzy through my inexperienced eyes.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 22nd, 2012, 4:44pm
If the times don't change, I can commentate Sunday morning again, same time for Nombril again this week.  I doubt I can commentate a second game unless the weekend is less busy than it is currently shaping up to be.  With Adanac unable to commentate this weekend, it would be a great time for someone new to try their hand at it.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 22nd, 2012, 5:45pm
Again, I won't be able to commentate the week-end games I fear :(
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Simon on Jan 24th, 2012, 4:30am
I guess I could try to commentate on saturday. "Try to" = attempt to say sensible things about the games, maybe unsuccessfully.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 24th, 2012, 10:13am

on 01/24/12 at 04:30:54, Simon wrote:
I guess I could try to commentate on saturday. "Try to" = attempt to say sensible things about the games, maybe unsuccessfully.

Yay!  That's exactly what I do, and I'm glad you will give it a try.  I find that I give my worst commentary when I try to anticipate specific moves, and try to analyze what will happen in response.  Try not to talk about lines of play and variations.  I give my best commentary when I try to say sensible things about the position, like "the elephant wants to be next to the enemy camel".  If you understand something, say it, even if it seems trivial.  This formula will take you a long way as a commentator.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 24th, 2012, 2:50pm

on 01/24/12 at 10:13:13, Fritzlein wrote:
Yay!  That's exactly what I do, and I'm glad you will give it a try.  I find that I give my worst commentary when I try to anticipate specific moves, and try to analyze what will happen in response.  Try not to talk about lines of play and variations.  I give my best commentary when I try to say sensible things about the position, like "the elephant wants to be next to the enemy camel".  If you understand something, say it, even if it seems trivial.  This formula will take you a long way as a commentator.


I can commentate early morning games Wednesday-Friday or Monday afternoon.  Nothing on the weekend, though.

I agree with Fritz that it’s much easier to just say general things than to try to predict specific tactical lines.

Me in 2010:
“On 17s the silver horse should move from d5 to c4 to protect the c3 trap.  Oops, I meant silver elephant on e6…I was looking right at the e6 square and couldn’t even say the piece name correctly… Then on 18s it should try to dislodge the b3 gold horse so that the silver elephant can…oops, I mean silver horse, can occupy b3 and get a good position.  Then on 19g the silver camel might be able to push the attacking horse away.  That’s the gold camel, I meant to say, assuming it moves to the west side on 18g.  But can the elephant block that camel, let me look…no wait, that’s not going to work…wow, talking and planning tactics at the same time is tricky.  Oh, a different 17s was just played and everything I just said is completely irrelevant”.

Me in 2012:
“Silver might think about an elephant & horse attack in the southwest quadrant.  Gold will probably shift the camel to the west to deter that on the next move, so the silver player might want to settle for a rabbit pull on the following moves.  Have I mentioned yet that it’s really important for silver to occupy that b3 square?  Twenty times?  Good, because it’s really important to control the opposing traps”.

That’s an exaggeration, of course, but I’m definitely making fewer predictions about upcoming moves and saying more things of a general nature.  It’s so much easier now ;)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Jan 24th, 2012, 9:21pm

on 01/24/12 at 14:50:27, Adanac wrote:
I can commentate early morning games Wednesday-Friday or Monday afternoon.  Nothing on the weekend, though.


Well how about that, there is a weekday game!  I can co-commentate the first 90 minutes of the chessandgo-hanzack game if someone else can finish the broadcast.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 25th, 2012, 7:16am
I agree with Fritz and Adanac, although when you have a co-commentator and think about the moves when he's speaking, you're usually going to talk about more relevant moves than when you think while speaking, which is astonishingly hard.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Hippo on Jan 25th, 2012, 9:07am
I would probably have some time for teamspeak during c&g's game. But I am almost sure I will not be able for the whole game. I will go quietly to the lobby ...
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Arimabuff on Jan 25th, 2012, 11:18am
Is this really the place to volunteer for the commentating on the upcoming games? Because I vainly tried to find it on the spreadsheet.

In case it is then I volunteer for the (co)commentating of the next game between chessandgo and hanzack. The front page of the game room is misleading.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 25th, 2012, 6:13pm

on 01/25/12 at 11:18:32, Arimabuff wrote:
Is this really the place to volunteer for the commentating on the upcoming games?

I don't know who (if anyone) volunteered to coordinate commentary this year.  Perhaps nobody is in charge.


Quote:
In case it is then I volunteer for the (co)commentating of the next game between chessandgo and hanzack.

Great, I added you and Adanac and Hippo as commentators for that game.  If all three of you are there at once, I'm not sure how to work out taking turns talking, but you'll figure it out.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 25th, 2012, 6:15pm

on 01/24/12 at 04:30:54, Simon wrote:
I guess I could try to commentate on saturday. "Try to" = attempt to say sensible things about the games, maybe unsuccessfully.

Since you said "games", I have put you down as commentator for both rabbits vs. Fritzlein and ocmiente vs. woh, but don't hesitate to clarify if that is too much for you.  Thanks for volunteering!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 26th, 2012, 1:48pm

on 01/25/12 at 11:18:32, Arimabuff wrote:
Is this really the place to volunteer for the commentating on the upcoming games? Because I vainly tried to find it on the spreadsheet.

In case it is then I volunteer for the (co)commentating of the next game between chessandgo and hanzack. The front page of the game room is misleading.


It would be easier to keep track using the spreadsheet. After opening the spreadsheet you need to click on the tab for the current round (near the bottom of the spreadsheet). Then you can just enter you name for the games you want to commentate or help in other ways for.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 26th, 2012, 1:52pm
I probably won't be able to relay or record for the chessandgo vs hanzack game. I might be able to catch some from the middle, but not from the beginning. If anyone can help with this, please add your name to the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 26th, 2012, 4:19pm

on 01/26/12 at 13:48:42, omar wrote:
It would be easier to keep track using the spreadsheet. After opening the spreadsheet you need to click on the tab for the current round (near the bottom of the spreadsheet). Then you can just enter you name for the games you want to commentate or help in other ways for.

Does that mean someone is updating the spreadsheet with the games as soon as they are scheduled, and that someone is transferring the additions to the spreadsheet into the gameroom announcements?  If so, I agree that the spreadsheet is the way to go; it's much more convenient than digging through a forum thread to find who said what.  I've added myself there as commentator for Nombril vs. Tuks.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 26th, 2012, 10:35pm

on 01/26/12 at 16:19:27, Fritzlein wrote:
Does that mean someone is updating the spreadsheet with the games as soon as they are scheduled, and that someone is transferring the additions to the spreadsheet into the gameroom announcements?  If so, I agree that the spreadsheet is the way to go; it's much more convenient than digging through a forum thread to find who said what.  I've added myself there as commentator for Nombril vs. Tuks.


I don't think any one person is responsible for doing this right now. We've just been doing it in a shared way. I think Nombril had created the R1 and R2 pages soon after the games were scheduled; I created the R3 page recently. I think the gameroom announcements for the radio commentaries have been updated mostly by you. I've updated it occasionally just to add myself shortly before a game that no one had volunteered to commentate.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 27th, 2012, 7:31am

on 01/26/12 at 22:35:37, omar wrote:
I created the R3 page recently.

Right, and until that page is there, no one can use it to volunteer for commentary.  So unless that is being done, the forum thread is actually the better place to report availability to commentate.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 27th, 2012, 8:31am

on 01/27/12 at 07:31:51, Fritzlein wrote:
Right, and until that page is there, no one can use it to volunteer for commentary.  So unless that is being done, the forum thread is actually the better place to report availability to commentate.


OK I'll start creating this page right after the schedule is finalized (Tuesday 8pm EST).
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 27th, 2012, 8:33am
I rearranged my schedule a bit so that I can be available for the chessandgo vs hanzack R3 game. I should be able to relay and record the game.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Simon on Jan 27th, 2012, 9:18am

on 01/25/12 at 18:15:10, Fritzlein wrote:
Since you said "games", I have put you down as commentator for both rabbits vs. Fritzlein and ocmiente vs. woh, but don't hesitate to clarify if that is too much for you.  Thanks for volunteering!


That was indeed why I said "games" but it very well might be too much, co-commentators very welcome!

I am somewhat worried I'll end up saying nothing or "ummm....ummm...ummm" for long periods,  I'll try to keep in mind your advice to say things that seem trivial.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 27th, 2012, 4:33pm

on 01/27/12 at 08:31:34, omar wrote:
OK I'll start creating this page right after the schedule is finalized (Tuesday 8pm EST).

Awesome, thanks!


on 01/27/12 at 09:18:32, Simon wrote:
I am somewhat worried I'll end up saying nothing or "ummm....ummm...ummm" for long periods,  I'll try to keep in mind your advice to say things that seem trivial.

Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by SpeedRazor on Jan 28th, 2012, 12:25am
Simon, you did great Bro!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Jan 28th, 2012, 9:44am
Omar, great job on the video of chessandgo vs. hanzack!  It adds another dimension to have someone following what the commentators are saying and trying to make the video match, for instance by backing up to a previous move the players made that is still under discussion, or by demonstrating a line from the current position that is being speculated about.  It makes the experience much more engaging than seeing only the moves that are actually played.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 28th, 2012, 10:48am
You did good Simon! Btw, people tend to use the "push to talk" mode instead of voice activation, to avoid you mic turning off when you pause for a few seconds.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Simon on Jan 28th, 2012, 8:06pm
I do use push to talk, but unpress the hotkey whenever I pause. Is that distracting?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 28th, 2012, 8:54pm

on 01/28/12 at 09:44:54, Fritzlein wrote:
Omar, great job on the video of chessandgo vs. hanzack!  It adds another dimension to have someone following what the commentators are saying and trying to make the video match, for instance by backing up to a previous move the players made that is still under discussion, or by demonstrating a line from the current position that is being speculated about.  It makes the experience much more engaging than seeing only the moves that are actually played.  Thanks!


Thanks.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 28th, 2012, 9:00pm

on 01/28/12 at 20:06:46, Simon wrote:
I do use push to talk, but unpress the hotkey whenever I pause. Is that distracting?


It's best to use the press to talk option. That way there is no chance of background sounds causing you TS to get active. Also if you don't have head phones it could get into a feedback look when someone starts talking.

Thanks for helping out with the commentary. Also thanks to nr20 (Jack) for helping out as well.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Jan 28th, 2012, 9:08pm
I forgot I had started a page in the wiki for radio commentary notes. I found it today and added more to it. I hope this is useful for the commentators. Please feel free to add to it.

http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Radio_Commentary_Notes
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 29th, 2012, 4:55am

on 01/28/12 at 20:06:46, Simon wrote:
I do use push to talk, but unpress the hotkey whenever I pause. Is that distracting?


Oh ok. Well, the listeners might be under the impression that your sentence is over and that they've missed something when your mic stops emitting, or your co-commentators might think it's their turn to talk. But do as you prefer obviously, both are fine!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Harren on Jan 29th, 2012, 5:44am

on 01/28/12 at 09:44:54, Fritzlein wrote:
Omar, great job on the video of chessandgo vs. hanzack!  It adds another dimension to have someone following what the commentators are saying and trying to make the video match, for instance by backing up to a previous move the players made that is still under discussion, or by demonstrating a line from the current position that is being speculated about.  It makes the experience much more engaging than seeing only the moves that are actually played.  Thanks!


I had a different experience; I was distracted when alternative moves were being played, sometimes up to 5 or 6 moves in the future, while they didn't always fit the exact commentary at the time. Probably just a personal preference, but I preferred just seeing the current position, and therefore opened  the game myself, and played it using the options 'realtime' and 'auto', while listening to the commentary from the video.

Would it be possible to do both in the future? Or see both screens (current position + alternative moves) in one window?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Jan 29th, 2012, 5:55pm
Yes, doing it when there is a second recorder to make both versions available could be a good idea.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 3rd, 2012, 3:31pm
We desperately need more commentators for round 4.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Feb 3rd, 2012, 3:42pm

on 02/03/12 at 15:31:34, omar wrote:
We desperately need more commentators for round 4.


I won't be available for commentary either this week or next week but I will be available for the 6th round.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 3rd, 2012, 3:57pm

on 02/03/12 at 15:31:34, omar wrote:
We desperately need more commentators for round 4.

I can't help commentate this round either, but I don't think the need is desperate.  If nobody volunteers, there will simply be some (or all) games with no commentary.  It's not the end of the world.

I remember how burned out you got last year, Omar, from trying to commentate every game when there was no other volunteer.  I hope you don't do the same thing again this year.  Your Arimaa time and energy are too valuable to be squandered in this way.  If you save yourself for more critical things, the Arimaa community will be better off than if you exhaust yourself commentating five games in one weekend.  

I do hope that more new volunteers step forward like Simon has done (and very creditably, I might add).  But if no one does, I hope you don't fall on this particular sword.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Nombril on Feb 3rd, 2012, 9:06pm
Looks like I will be home for the Adanac vs hanzack game tomorrow, so I've added my name as commentator if Arimabuff would like company.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 3rd, 2012, 11:50pm

on 02/03/12 at 21:06:35, Nombril wrote:
Looks like I will be home for the Adanac vs hanzack game tomorrow, so I've added my name as commentator if Arimabuff would like company.


Thanks for volunteering for this game. It should be quite exciting.

Come on guys, we need someone to help with at least the Fritzlein vs chessandgo game.

Also thanks Patrick for signing up to help out with these games.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Simon on Feb 4th, 2012, 12:13am
I could give commentary on Harren v. Tuks.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 7th, 2012, 8:49pm
I've updated the spreadsheet with the game times. Please sign up if you can help out in some way.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by tharkun on Feb 8th, 2012, 12:14pm

on 02/07/12 at 20:49:54, omar wrote:
I've updated the spreadsheet with the game times. Please sign up if you can help out in some way.

I suppose that you mean giving commentary?


on 12/27/11 at 19:27:41, Nombril wrote:
Other things that will need doing:
(...)
Provide commentary (not just deep analysis, you don't have to be a top player to ask questions and provide impressions.)

I listened to a few live broadcasts so far and found them quite enjoyable. I am very inexperienced, but if you need commentators I could ask the questions during the Tuks vs c&g game - provided that I'm accompanied by someone stronger to give the answers
;D
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 8th, 2012, 3:04pm

on 02/08/12 at 12:14:06, tharkun wrote:
I listened to a few live broadcasts so far and found them quite enjoyable. I am very inexperienced, but if you need commentators I could ask the questions during the Tuks vs c&g game - provided that I'm accompanied by someone stronger to give the answers
;D

I will have to be in class during this game, so I would appreciate any commentary you can give, even if you are just asking questions of Arimaabuff (who has already signed up).  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 9th, 2012, 3:58am
Again, I won't be able to commentate this week. Hopefully next week and onwards I'll be able to take a shot at some games!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 9th, 2012, 11:32pm

on 02/08/12 at 12:14:06, tharkun wrote:
I suppose that you mean giving commentary?

I listened to a few live broadcasts so far and found them quite enjoyable. I am very inexperienced, but if you need commentators I could ask the questions during the Tuks vs c&g game - provided that I'm accompanied by someone stronger to give the answers
;D


Yes, please do sign up for commentary; we definitely need help with that.

I won't be able to do the game intro tomorrow so the commentators will have to handle it. I'll only be able to do the radio relay and recording.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Feb 13th, 2012, 6:45am
I have some available time this weekend so I'll volunteer to be a commentator of Fritzlein-hanzack as well as writing both game reports.  I've filled in the spreadsheet.

Unfortunately, my own game isn't at the best time for spectators & commentators.  I'm willing to push it back an hour or two, but it's quite possible that Jean is very busy this weekend.  I'm guessing that's the case since Friday 6am wasn't even close to being my top preference  ;)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 13th, 2012, 5:44pm
I had actually forgotten again to update my prefered times before Omar ran the scheduler. I almost sent you an email, 6am being a rather terrible time for a late riser such as me, but I realized I didn't have many good times slots which could be convenient for you. You mention pushing the game back a few hours, but it's 1am (early friday) for you, are you considering playing in the middle of the night? I'll mostly be unavailable this week-end, but if you have more convenient week times please let me know.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Feb 13th, 2012, 6:23pm

on 02/13/12 at 17:44:59, chessandgo wrote:
I had actually forgotten again to update my prefered times before Omar ran the scheduler. I almost sent you an email, 6am being a rather terrible time for a late riser such as me, but I realized I didn't have many good times slots which could be convenient for you. You mention pushing the game back a few hours, but it's 1am (early friday) for you, are you considering playing in the middle of the night? I'll mostly be unavailable this week-end, but if you have more convenient week times please let me know.


That's strange.  I got an e-mail that mentioned it's 6am my local time:

Your game against: Jean Daligault (chessandgo)
is scheduled to start at: Fri 6:00 am YLT
YLT = Your Local Time

Anyway, once we straighten that issue out, is it OK if we play at 7am-8am EST which should be around noon-1pm for you?  Just in case, I'll bump up the preference for those 2 time slots before the scheduler runs a 2nd time.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 13th, 2012, 6:49pm
That'd be a zillion times better for me! I'm updating my times with slots 42-43 as only top preferrence (are those what you're referring to?).
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Adanac on Feb 13th, 2012, 7:04pm

on 02/13/12 at 18:49:53, chessandgo wrote:
That'd be a zillion times better for me! I'm updating my times with slots 42-43 as only top preferrence (are those what you're referring to?).


That's great that we agree on a game time but those time slots are 37-38 for me.  Are you sure that you're logged in for the right time zone?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 14th, 2012, 4:25am
fffff... you're right, my times aren't making sense. I've toyed with the "time zone" thingy again, I think it's ok now. 37-38 are my only top preference, pick up the best for you.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 16th, 2012, 12:50pm
Is someone writing a game report for the Adanac-Fritz game of Round 5? I've not contributed yet, so I'd give it a shot unless someone (Vladan?) has already started.

EDIT: oh, I actually went ahead, and just realized that Greg had signed up for the commentary. Hmm, I'm sending you what I've written, feel free to cut and paste, and use or not use it any way you like :)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 17th, 2012, 12:50pm
I don't have a wiki account I think. How can I create one? Should I email Omar through the contact page?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 17th, 2012, 12:57pm

on 02/17/12 at 12:50:26, chessandgo wrote:
I don't have a wiki account I think. How can I create one? Should I email Omar through the contact page?

Yep, contact Omar via any means and ask for an account.  (Anyone in the community can have an account; but if we allow automatic edits we get spammed.  :()
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 18th, 2012, 4:32am
Thanks, he created it, great!
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by tharkun on Feb 22nd, 2012, 7:57am

on 02/21/12 at 19:52:30, omar wrote:
The time for Adanac vs Nombril is at 3pm EST on Monday.


on 02/22/12 at 06:47:57, omar wrote:
That's going to be hard to cover, but I hope someone will provide commentary for it.

I've updated the spreadsheet. Please sign up if you can. Thanks.

I'm confused about the time shown in the spreadsheet. 3pm EST is 9pm in GMT+1, and this time is also shown for me in the gameroom (Scheduled games). However, the spreadsheet seems to suggest that the game will start 4 days and 23 hours from now, which is 2pm in GMT+1. I verified that the current time in the spreadsheet was correct, so I'm baffled.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 22nd, 2012, 12:01pm
The time shown in the gameroom under 'Scheduled Games' should be correct; unless your timezone setting is off, which can be checked by selecting the Time Zone option from the Settings menu.

I wonder if there might be an error in the formula used in the spreadsheet. I just copied it over from the previous sheet.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by tharkun on Feb 22nd, 2012, 3:56pm
Yes, I tried already to check that my timezone is correct in the settings menu. It is a bit unclear how it works, though. I suppose that "computer time zone offset: 1" means my selected timezone is currently GMT+1, which is correct. However, "offset suggested by your location: 6" seems to contradict this, especially since "location" does show my current location on the world map.

It is possible that I am the culprit myself. The calculations in the spreadsheet seem to work only when the starting point for the time slots and the current time are both measured in the same timezone. The starting time is fixed, but the current time is dependent on the timezone settings (function "now()" ). Thus, I probably misunderstood the given instructions:

Quote:
If the current time shown below is not right then the times above will also be off by the same amount. Adjust the timezone or time on your computer and reopen this page.

I thought that "adjust the timezone" was referring to the spreadsheet, so I changed the timezone settings in the spreadsheet to my own. That was probably not the correct interpretation of the instructions, is it?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 22nd, 2012, 4:16pm
I'm baffled by that page too.

"Gameroom time zone offset" -6

seems to be working for me, where

"Computer time zone offset: 0
Offset suggested by your location is: 6"

is written below. It's kinda strange that we get the same suggested offset while not being in the same time zone. Not sure if that helps you :)
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Hippo on Feb 22nd, 2012, 6:11pm

on 02/16/12 at 12:50:49, chessandgo wrote:
Is someone writing a game report for the Adanac-Fritz game of Round 5? I've not contributed yet, so I'd give it a shot unless someone (Vladan?) has already started.

EDIT: oh, I actually went ahead, and just realized that Greg had signed up for the commentary. Hmm, I'm sending you what I've written, feel free to cut and paste, and use or not use it any way you like :)


I have not reported since I went to Tignes. May be in next rounds I would again, but I have already reported much more games I have originally expected. I like it, but it could create one sided view ... biased by the same kind of errors ... :). I am happy you and Greg made some reports on your own. ... There are strong players already eliminated ...
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by tharkun on Feb 23rd, 2012, 2:17pm
Anyway omar, if the time for Adanac vs Nombril really is at 3pm EST (that is 9pm in GMT+1) on Monday then I'm available to co-commentate if you want me to.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Hippo on Feb 23rd, 2012, 3:54pm

on 02/23/12 at 14:17:54, tharkun wrote:
Anyway omar, if the time for Adanac vs Nombril really is at 3pm EST (that is 9pm in GMT+1) on Monday then I'm available to co-commentate if you want me to.

Yes it could be nice discussion with your fresh ideas in the studio :) ... so install the teamspeak ... version 3 works well.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 24th, 2012, 1:36pm
Greg, regarding your game report of our Round 6 game:

"the gold elephant turned the tables with a very powerful 28g"

I still have the same feeling as during the post-game interview: doesn't 28s d->e6 r->g7 completely block gold's Elephant? I thought the manoeuver was doomed when I played it, but didn't see what else to do. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 26th, 2012, 12:07am

on 02/22/12 at 16:16:01, chessandgo wrote:
I'm baffled by that page too.

"Gameroom time zone offset" -6

seems to be working for me, where

"Computer time zone offset: 0
Offset suggested by your location is: 6"

is written below. It's kinda strange that we get the same suggested offset while not being in the same time zone. Not sure if that helps you :)


Maybe your location is not setup. To fix the location select 'Location' from the 'Settings' menu.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 26th, 2012, 12:08am

on 02/23/12 at 14:17:54, tharkun wrote:
Anyway omar, if the time for Adanac vs Nombril really is at 3pm EST (that is 9pm in GMT+1) on Monday then I'm available to co-commentate if you want me to.


Yes, certainly. That would be great.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by chessandgo on Feb 26th, 2012, 7:28am

on 02/26/12 at 00:07:08, omar wrote:
Maybe your location is not setup. To fix the location select 'Location' from the 'Settings' menu.


My location seems correct. Just to check, we should put minus the "Offset suggested by your location" as a rule (in which case it's be working fine for me)?
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by hyperpape on Feb 26th, 2012, 10:20am
Why not just write something along the lines of "the game is scheduled for [time] [day] GMT, which should be [time] [day] in [location],  which you have set as your location".

Or maybe your local time should be first. But that way, it will be immediately apparent if your time isn't working right, and you have GMT visible as a fall-back.

I hope it's not too presumptuous to offer comments on UI elements I haven't seen, but I just thought something of the sort might alleviate the confusion.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 26th, 2012, 12:54pm
Turns out I won't be able to attend the Nombril vs Adanac game. Arimaabuff and Hippo will be providing commentary. It would be great if someone can record it. Fritz if you can do the radio relay that would really help. Otherwise, I will setup a computer to do the radio relay from Studio1 and leave it running.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by Fritzlein on Feb 27th, 2012, 11:24am

on 02/26/12 at 12:54:47, omar wrote:
Turns out I won't be able to attend the Nombril vs Adanac game. Arimaabuff and Hippo will be providing commentary. It would be great if someone can record it. Fritz if you can do the radio relay that would really help. Otherwise, I will setup a computer to do the radio relay from Studio1 and leave it running.

Sorry, I didn't see this until too late, and anyway the best I could have done is what you propose; set up a computer with the relay and leave it running.  I will be at school all day, and actually in class during the game.
Title: Re: 2012 World Championship - Volunteers
Post by omar on Feb 27th, 2012, 1:16pm
OK, I'll setup the relay. But I won't be able to help much with commentary.


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