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Re: This is getting scary
« Reply #15 on: Jan 21st, 2018, 10:23pm »
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Thanks for the encouragement!  It will be interesting to see how it evolves.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24th, 2018, 10:41pm »
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User DeathCure sent me an interesting link worth sharing.
 
This article mentions that Alpha Go runs on about $25 million in hardware.
 
https://www.inc.com/lisa-calhoun/google-artificial-intelligence-alpha-go -zero-just-pressed-reset-on-how-we-learn.html
 
https://bit.ly/2z10X50
 
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Re: This is getting scary
« Reply #17 on: May 31st, 2018, 8:22pm »
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on Dec 17th, 2017, 2:18pm, Belteshazzar wrote:

 
At this rate, there could be a challenge to create a game, let AI play itself, and then defeat the AI at the game.

 
Such a game can't be created, an AI that plays itself means it has genetically developed to know how to respond to all moves made (AlphaZero evaluates 80K moves per second - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/alpha-zero-stockfish-number-of- moves-per-second-vs-hardware-debate). The only way to beat it would be to either start the game with a forced win for the player, or make the game have some luck factor in it.
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 29th, 2019, 9:36pm »
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Curious if anyone has made progress on this challenge. I found this interesting tutorial the other day that could be used as a starting point:
 
https://medium.com/applied-data-science/how-to-build-your-own-alphazero- ai-using-python-and-keras-7f664945c188
 
Note: for some reason the link above includes a space that you have to remove for it to work. I can't seem to get rid of it in this post.
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Re: This is getting scary
« Reply #19 on: Oct 25th, 2019, 12:53am »
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Curious if anyone has made progress on this challenge.

 
I will be taking on this challenge and have an engine self playing now. It will be interesting to see if, and how fast it learns, as well as how many games it takes to be competitive.
 
For reference, on my machine, the engine has learned:
 
Connect4 - 3 hours to perfect play.
Quoridor - 4 days for high level play.
Arimaa - Huh
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 30th, 2019, 7:32am »
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That's awesome. Please keep us posted on your progress.
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Re: This is getting scary
« Reply #21 on: Aug 29th, 2020, 5:03am »
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The chess community has setup the Leela Chess Zero project for developing a chess AI comparable to Alpha Zero. Anyone can participate in providing computational resources to the project. Perhaps the same open source software could be used for a Leela Arimaa Zero project.
 
See https://lczero.org/ for details.
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