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Re: What about simultaneous games ?
« on: Apr 12th, 2005, 6:26am »
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I think you underestimate how difficult it would be for Omar to automate this.
 
However, it is already possible, as long as Fritz is happy to switch windows himself Smiley.
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Re: What about simultaneous games ?
« Reply #1 on: Apr 12th, 2005, 9:15am »
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on Apr 12th, 2005, 5:27am, Arimanator wrote:
Omar, please don't tell me that this is another figment of my imagination, but I believe that your program could easily be modified to admit simultaneous games.
 
Someone (would it be Fritzlein by any chance?  Grin ) could initiate a SG and invite a list of opponents, he then would see each board in a certain order and play on each one, one move at a time, that is, when he would hit the send button it would switch automatically to the next board from his point of view with maybe a field telling him what current board he is on. From every one else's point of view it would be exactly as it is now.

 
I apologize if I was condescending.  It is true I have no idea about your computer background, but "easily modified to admit simultaneous games" is a very strong claim.  It's almost as though if Omar can't do it, he must be incompetent Smiley.  My guess/assessment of the ease of this task is very different to yours - or maybe we simply have a widely different definition of "easy".  Nevertheless, I'm very happy not to debate this, and to leave it to Omar as to whether he can/wants to easily implement your suggested feature.
 
As for me beating you at arimaa... I don't think we've played yet.  But I have noticed that you are playing very well against my bot, so it may well be time for a game sometime soon if you're up for it.
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Re: What about simultaneous games ?
« Reply #2 on: Apr 13th, 2005, 7:01pm »
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It is possible, but not so easy that I can do it right away. If someone wants to play simultaneous games and wants this feature, please let me know. Although I probably won't be able to get to it too soon. There are still a lot of more urgent changes I need to make to the client and server software, but haven't been able to do it yet.
 
Pat, I just want to reassure you that we are fortunate to have a very nice group of people here. So even if something may seem negitive, I can assure you that it was unintentional. If you see that from me, please keep in mind I might have just been in a hurry and it was not intentional.
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Re: What about simultaneous games ?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 8:04am »
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I'm also happy to play a (small) simul some day, but I'll happily switch windows myself - so don't actually need anything changed in order to play it.  To be honest though simuls could be fun but don't enthuse me any more than a good quick game.  When playing players of significantly lower ability I try to play very quickly anyway, just in order to train my thinking a bit.
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Re: What about simultaneous games ?
« Reply #4 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 8:24am »
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on Apr 14th, 2005, 6:02pm, Arimanator wrote:
By the way I would have liked to have Fritzlein's opinion about this. He is the most likely to use that feature after all.

 
I'm not sure I would like playing in a simultaneous game.  I usually avoid a challenge because I'm afraid I might lose.  I think that you might have a more willing customer in 99of9: he's the one who gives away half his pieces and still beats a bot, and I'll bet he's the one to beat half a dozen folks at the same time.
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Re: What about simultaneous games ?
« Reply #5 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 12:05pm »
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Paul Lefert and I even played a Blitz-simultaneous game once Smiley
 
It was really fun, but very hard.
 
I played several games simultaneous against low ranked bots as well, and must say that I play far worse that way ... actually I might beat them faster one after the other simply because my blunderrate greatly prolonges those games.
 
Another problem is the possibility to play NULL-moves with one opponent to get back on track with your timer.
 
As soon as we are talking Windows, there should be no problem (not even a small one) to write an additional programm that monitors the game-windows and does exactly what you want Smiley
(I am sure its easy in other OS's as well - I just dont know how to do it there :-P )
 
The one thing I dislike for many reasons is the feature to stop the clock when not watching, not because I think anyone would abuse it but because it would make it possible.
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