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Annotated games?
« on: Apr 25th, 2011, 7:43pm »
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Is there any interest in annotating any more games? Specifically, I would be interested in seeing a game annotated in which a human defeats bot_Sharp2011CC, since that seems to be the strongest bot at this time.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 2:26am »
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Perhaps this game could be annotated while it is still fresh in the minds of the players?  I have been studying chessandgo's games, since he is still by most indications the best there is.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 7:19am »
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Yeah, that's an interesting game. What if on 18g Ronweasley had brought the M to f3 instead of taking the cat?
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 9:39am »
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Yes, it was nice to watch this game. Was Ned winning in the midgame or was Jean winning whole the game? What was the players evaluation?
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 12:10pm »
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16g
I don't understand why Gold didn't capture the cat on c7.
 
And what was the point of 24g? Gold moved the rabbit from a2 to c4, where it got captured in a few turns, instead of capturing rabbit f8 with a Horse.
 
After rabbit trade in move 27 I would prefer Silver's position, because they have long-lasting initiative constantly creating goal threats, and Hf7+Df5 are just sitting and have nothing to threaten. Horse on g3 plays a key role in that position.
 
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Yeah, that's an interesting game. What if on 18g Ronweasley had brought the M to f3 instead of taking the cat?

 
Yeah, good point. I think that could have created lots of troubles for Silver.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 2:00pm »
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Was Ned winning in the midgame or was Jean winning whole the game?

 
My theory is that Ned was ahead before his blunder on 18g. Wink
 
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I don't understand why Gold didn't capture the cat on c7.
 
 
It would let silver take control of f3 wth a move like  
 
16s de4s de3s Rf2s Rf3x de2e
 
which I think would lead to a race favouring silver.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 3:25pm »
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on Sep 14th, 2011, 2:00pm, Simon wrote:

 
My theory is that Ned was ahead before his blunder on 18g. Wink
 
  
 
It would let silver take control of f3 wth a move like  
 
16s de4s de3s Rf2s Rf3x de2e
 
which I think would lead to a race favouring silver.

 
Yes sure this would be cat for at least several rabbits.
 
At 18g I don't know what position I would prefer it's cat for two rabbits with silver having strong attack on f3. The gold a file goal attack made(could made) the position interesting. But silver could advance his a file rabbits to counter it. May be 18g Ra5 rather than capturing cat?
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 3:29pm »
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It would let silver take control of f3 wth a move like  
 
16s de4s de3s Rf2s Rf3x de2e
 
which I think would lead to a race favouring silver.

 
It is not so clear I think. Gold can respond moving the dog and rabbit away from the lost trap with  
 
17g Rh2n Dg2e Rh3n Rb2n
 
thus leaving one rabbit f1 vulnerable, and Gold threatens to capture 2 rabbits (a6 and c8 ).
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 14th, 2011, 9:39pm »
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I think silver has a pretty strong advantage after your 17g, as silver can easily advance a rabbit to get a good goal threat whereas it will be slower for gold to advance a rabbit.
 
edit: I mean of course advance a rabbit towards a taken-over trap. it doesn't count if you advance a rabbit to a trap still controlled by the other side.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 24th, 2011, 1:25pm »
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I just found this thread.  I have been very busy elsewhere, protecting the land from dark magic and all.  I can't give you much insight into this game as my goal for the Owl Mixer was to finish all games without timeing out.
 
Against chessandgo, I chose moves at first to slow down his inevitable attack.  I was surprised to find I had counterplay.  Yes, on 18g I didn't expect silver's reply.  Looking back at it, I like the suggestion of moving the M to f3 to stop the attack there.  After 18s my strategy was simply to keep the gold H and D from being captured.  Being down by four Rs, I had a very thin defense which didn't give me a chance to make more threats.
 
For annotated games, look for Owl Mixer games from one or two years ago.  Look for games with 3 or more comments on them and you may find annotations given there.  Fritz usually did his but look at other top players too.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 7:41pm »
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I realize this is a necropost, but how should I go about browsing these postal games? I tried looking under "Postal Games" and "Archived Games" but I got nowhere.
 
The reason I'm asking is that I'm analysing my games right now. Thus, I'm very much interested in reading the deliberations of good players so that I know what strategic elements to look for. So far I've only found links to a few precious annotated games on the Wikibook.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 7th, 2012, 1:15pm »
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on Feb 6th, 2012, 7:41pm, tharkun wrote:
I realize this is a necropost, but how should I go about browsing these postal games? I tried looking under "Postal Games" and "Archived Games" but I got nowhere.
 
The reason I'm asking is that I'm analysing my games right now. Thus, I'm very much interested in reading the deliberations of good players so that I know what strategic elements to look for. So far I've only found links to a few precious annotated games on the Wikibook.

Start from Games->Even Games menu ...
going there.
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Re: Annotated games?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 7th, 2012, 5:55pm »
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Ah, thanks a lot.
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