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Fritzlein
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #45 on: Apr 3rd, 2008, 3:52pm » |
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Thanks, for fixing it, mistre, and for doing all the manual labor to double-check my results. Since you are a glutton for punishment (i.e. repetitive tasks), I realized that while I can't query for handicap records per se, I can query for games in which an early capture happened, if you are willing to examine them by hand for potential handicap records. Of course, there is no need for you to sort through all of these, but if you are curious what has been done and how, it might be kind of interesting.
I don't claim that my query caught all handicap games, or that all the games it did catch were played at handicap. Also I had to exclude ArimaaScoreP1 from my query when the human plays Silver, because the extreme idiocy of ArimaaScoreP1 means that the early capture is usually legitimate, not a handicap.
Gold gives handicap against bot:
id wusername busername termination result
38582 broutcha bot_Aamira2006P1 g w
8908 88of8 bot_Arimaalon g w
9144 PMertens bot_Arimaanator g w
32474 Guest5031 bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
35621 yurko bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
36111 jmssil bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
41340 Guest5513 bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
45223 lukenilpolso bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
61962 wumps bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
63836 botbasher bot_ArimaaScoreP1 m w
66074 Victor_V bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
71157 Flor bot_ArimaaScoreP1 g w
8457 omar bot_Arimaazilla g w
9143 88of8 bot_Arimaazilla g w
11224 naveed bot_Arimaazilla g w
5331 omar bot_bomb g w
16244 PMertens bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
16318 PMertens bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
16388 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
16438 PMertens bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
16606 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
16655 PMertens bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
56489 aaaa bot_Bomb2005Blitz g w
13845 PMertens bot_Bomb2005CC g w
41359 Fritzlein bot_Bomb2005CC g w
47349 Fritzlein bot_Bomb2005CC g w
48023 Fritzlein bot_Bomb2005CC g w
13755 PMertens bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
13864 robinson bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
39271 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
40840 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
40889 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
41001 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
43097 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
47919 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
47963 chessandgo bot_Bomb2005Fast g w
16857 PMertens bot_Bomb2005P1 g w
16450 PMertens bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
16465 99of9 bot_Bomb2005P2 g w
16480 PMertens bot_Bomb2005P2 g w
17605 PMertens bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
17647 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
17656 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
17659 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
17715 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
17865 Arimanator bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
23743 PMertens bot_Bomb2005P2 g w
23745 PMertens bot_Bomb2005P2 m w
1115 MrBrain bot_Brain g w
16780 PMertens bot_Clueless2005P1 g w
36448 Calumet45 bot_Clueless2006Fast m w
28104 OLTI bot_Clueless2006P2 m w
36696 Fritzlein bot_GnoBot2005Fast g w
41005 chessandgo bot_GnoBot2005Fast g w
16773 PMertens bot_GnoBot2005P1 g w
26549 Swynndla bot_GnoBot2005P2 g w
16771 PMertens bot_Loc2005P1 g w
16833 PMertens bot_Loc2005P2 g w
420 tough_to_win bot_ShallowBlue g w
3912 lesmisrules bot_ShallowBlue g w
5571 99of9 bot_ShallowBlue g w
6291 Yuri bot_ShallowBlue g w
8907 88of8 bot_ShallowBlue m w
8912 88of8 bot_ShallowBlue g w
9037 Fritzlein bot_ShallowBlue g w
9054 88of8 bot_ShallowBlue g w
9934 vaurek bot_ShallowBlue g w
11257 Guest2128 bot_ShallowBlue g w
15596 murph1016 bot_ShallowBlue g w
Silver gives handicap against bot:
id wusername busername termination result
8911 bot_Arimaalon 88of8 g b
8946 bot_Arimaalon Fritzlein g b
9058 bot_Arimaalon 88of8 m b
8501 bot_Arimaanator omar g b
8917 bot_Arimaanator Fritzlein g b
11412 bot_Arimaanator omar g b
56774 bot_ArimaaScoreP2 Guest6914 g b
8456 bot_Arimaazilla omar g b
9140 bot_Arimaazilla 88of8 g b
9142 bot_Arimaazilla 88of8 g b
9193 bot_Arimaazilla Fritzlein g b
9200 bot_Arimaazilla 99of9 g b
8900 bot_Arimaazon Fritzlein g b
8909 bot_Arimaazon PMertens g b
25360 bot_bomb Fritzlein g b
71532 bot_Bomb2005Blitz chessandgo g b
71535 bot_Bomb2005Blitz chessandgo g b
47739 bot_Bomb2005CC Fritzlein g b
48013 bot_Bomb2005CC omar g b
55704 bot_Bomb2005CC aaaa g b
47994 bot_Bomb2005Fast Fritzlein g b
56337 bot_Bomb2005Fast aaaa g b
17624 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17655 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17666 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17691 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens g b
17703 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17704 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17705 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens g b
17706 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens g b
17725 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens g b
17729 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17753 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17767 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17792 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
17795 bot_Bomb2005P2 PMertens m b
18187 bot_Clueless2005P1 99of9 g b
28057 bot_Clueless2006P2 OLTI m b
36350 bot_Clueless2006P2 obiwan m b
58522 bot_GnoBot2005P1 722caasi g b
59885 bot_GnoBot2005P1 722caasi g b
26551 bot_GnoBot2005P2 Swynndla g b
29805 bot_GnoBot2006P1 frostlad g b
3377 bot_haizhi bot_ShallowBlue g b
68560 bot_hercules lightvector g b
100 bot_Occam bot_ShallowBlue g b
190 bot_ShallowBlue Getafix g b
859 bot_ShallowBlue Guest597 g b
5778 bot_ShallowBlue Vanilla g b
8401 bot_ShallowBlue maker g b
8906 bot_ShallowBlue 88of8 g b
8910 bot_ShallowBlue Fritzlein g b
9036 bot_ShallowBlue Fritzlein g b
9039 bot_ShallowBlue Fritzlein g b
9391 bot_ShallowBlue 99of9 g b
18569 bot_ShallowBlue Guest3662 g b
10877 bot_speedy Fritzlein m b
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mistre
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #46 on: Apr 3rd, 2008, 4:25pm » |
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Thanks a lot..... 
I know my curiosity is going to make me check all of the games you listed. I've already started.
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #47 on: Apr 5th, 2008, 3:21pm » |
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I've finished going through all of the games you listed and have made the changes to the handicap table.
Most of the games vs. Shallowblue and ArimaaScoreP1 were by new players who probably sacrificed their piece inadvertently during a learning game.
I thought I would show the following game vs. ArimaaScoreP1 as a special case since the human player may have inadvertently sacrified his Elephant and still was able to win in what might have been his first game!
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/jsShowGame.cgi?gid=66074%20&s=w
A few other games involving Clueless2006p2 completely baffled me. In games 28057 and 28104, OLTI sacrificed all of his pieces save his E and D. However, after he sacrificed all of his rabbits, the bot only made 1 step moves for the rest of the game, making it possible for OLTI to win with such an enormous handicap.
In a similar game - 36448, Camulet45 sacrificed all of his rabbits and then went on to win my immobilization vs Clueless2006fast as the bot only made 1-step moves.
I am thinking these matches should be highlighted under the unusual game pages as they involve strange bot behavior. Note that once the extermination rules go into effect, no player will be able to trigger this behavior because they will have lost when they lose their last rabbit.
Does any one know of any other bots that do this?
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #48 on: Apr 5th, 2008, 3:45pm » |
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on Apr 5th, 2008, 3:21pm, mistre wrote:I've finished going through all of the games you listed and have made the changes to the handicap table.
Most of the games vs. Shallowblue and ArimaaScoreP1 were by new players who probably sacrificed their piece inadvertently during a learning game.
I thought I would show the following game vs. ArimaaScoreP1 as a special case since the human player may have inadvertently sacrified his Elephant and still was able to win in what might have been his first game!
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/jsShowGame.cgi?gid=66074%20&s=w
A few other games involving Clueless2006p2 completely baffled me. In games 28057 and 28104, OLTI sacrificed all of his pieces save his E and D. However, after he sacrificed all of his rabbits, the bot only made 1 step moves for the rest of the game, making it possible for OLTI to win with such an enormous handicap.
In a similar game - 36448, Camulet45 sacrificed all of his rabbits and then went on to win my immobilization vs Clueless2006fast as the bot only made 1-step moves.
I am thinking these matches should be highlighted under the unusual game pages as they involve strange bot behavior. Note that once the extermination rules go into effect, no player will be able to trigger this behavior because they will have lost when they lose their last rabbit.
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There's nothing remarkable to this, many know about this bug. It's due to an old rule of Arimaa. Once you've lost all your rabbits Clueless2006 thinks that he's won the game and stop trying to beat you. So there's really nothing to it.
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Fritzlein
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #49 on: Apr 5th, 2008, 9:27pm » |
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Yes, it will be nice once the game room and tournaments have a unified rule set with losing all your rabbits being a loss.
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #50 on: Apr 5th, 2008, 11:54pm » |
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on Apr 5th, 2008, 3:21pm, mistre wrote:
I think this counts as a clear ER handicap (the R was suicided on the 3rd move after setup, early enough to count in my books). It's impressive that a player has the current handicap record with his first ever game!
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #51 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 12:30am » |
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I have E+M handicap for bot_ArimaaScoreP1 and both colors; games 73566 and 73567.
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #52 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 1:10am » |
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Fastest no-capture win with silver against ArimaaScoreP1: 5 moves in game 73572.
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #53 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 6:04am » |
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E+M handicap for bot_ArimaaScoreP2 with silver in 25 moves; game 73591
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #54 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 7:05am » |
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I had a go at my prediction against ArimaaScoreP1:
EMHHDD with gold, game 73595.
EMHHDD with silver, game 73598.
I think there's more potential in this bot.
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #55 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 7:06am » |
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bot_ArimaaScoreP2: E+M+H handicap with gold in 38 moves (game 73593).
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #56 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 7:17am » |
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bot_ArimaaScoreP2: E+M+H+D handicap with silver in 29 moves (game 73597).
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #57 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 1:40pm » |
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Looks like I sparked a revival of bot-bashing with my Elephant handicap games!
I will update the page with the records in this thread, but from now on - please use the thread, that says New! at the end.
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #58 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 2:11pm » |
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on Apr 6th, 2008, 7:05am, 99of9 wrote:I had a go at my prediction against ArimaaScoreP1:
EMHHDD with gold, game 73595.
EMHHDD with silver, game 73598.
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against ArimaaScoreP1:
EMHHDDR with silver, game 73617 in 14 moves.
You were right 99, there was more potential. 
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Re: Announce Bot Bashing Record
« Reply #59 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 11:03am » |
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Game 83242:
Goal in 13 as silver against Aamira2006Fast
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