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woh
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #120 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 11:01am » |
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Yes, I agree.
I have excluded cyborg_briareus in today's WHRH ranking.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #121 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 11:10am » |
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Game 11711 should also be disregarded.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #122 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 2:12pm » |
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on Aug 28th, 2012, 11:10am, aaaa wrote:| Game 11711 should also be disregarded. |
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But you already unrated it.
edit- ah, do you mean that due to incremental updating your "unratement" (lol is that a word?) would not be picked up automatically?
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #123 on: Sep 15th, 2012, 1:20pm » |
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on Jan 14th, 2011, 2:07am, megajester wrote:
I thought that the playing style itself was immaterial, that everything rests on the perfect execution of that style. Now I am proposing that even if a style is perfectly executed it can still be beaten by another, perfectly executed style.
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I don't know enough yet about Arimaa to really give an answer on it, but I will give a basketball analogy:
I'm coaching a team that's lacking in height, but very fast. I'm playing against Team X, who has great (GREAT) low-post play, but is substantially slow-footed and not very good shooting from long range. If I decide to defend to my strength, I should play a zone defense, allowing me to double-team the low post, and play against passing lanes. Any kind of rebound or turnover should allow me to run the floor and score before Team X can begin to defend me. All that being said, if X's low-post threats are THAT good, I'm probably still taking a beating, but if I can blunt their strength enough, I've got as good a chance as any with what I'm strong at. But if I play man-to-man, with my lack of height, X's height will certainly crush me. (I'm thinking like a 20-10 kind of center or power forward).
I guess my point is, if you're facing a top five-percent player (or team), perfect execution of a counter style may only blunt what they can do, because they do it so well anyway. But on average, every "offensive" set should have a "defensive" counter that would give a player a big edge. Because of that, if you can extrapolate that thought to Arimaa (otherwise, I think it would have been broken already), yes, styles can counter other styles.
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Fritzlein
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #124 on: Sep 15th, 2012, 7:26pm » |
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I'll bet that the objectively best moves in Arimaa sometimes belong to one style and sometimes belong to another style. Thus to always play the best move, you have to have play in every style, or equivalently, with no particular style.
That said, I probably have better practical chances if I steer towards familiar positions that I'm most comfortable with.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #125 on: Oct 13th, 2012, 11:49am » |
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on Aug 28th, 2012, 11:10am, aaaa wrote:| Game 11711 should also be disregarded. |
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It appears this game is still being included in the calculation of the WHRH ratings. Can you comment on this, woh?
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woh
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #126 on: Oct 16th, 2012, 5:16pm » |
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Game 11711 is still included in the WHRH because the game is still marked as rated in the game database.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #127 on: Oct 17th, 2012, 6:57am » |
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on Oct 16th, 2012, 5:16pm, woh wrote:| Game 11711 is still included in the WHRH because the game is still marked as rated in the game database. |
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Obviously, but surely you must agree that abandoned games shouldn't be used in its calculation?
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #128 on: Dec 1st, 2012, 8:47am » |
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I'm going to reiterate my request for abandoned games to be filtered from the rating lists.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #129 on: Dec 4th, 2012, 3:25pm » |
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Abandoned games are now excluded.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #130 on: Dec 25th, 2012, 9:27am » |
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on Aug 21st, 2012, 11:56pm, aaaa wrote:| woh, would it be too much trouble to have the peak ratings be links to (the comment pages of) the games they correspond to? That would be a really great feature to have. |
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Hi aaaa, the feature you requested is now included.
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #131 on: Dec 26th, 2012, 9:28am » |
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on Dec 25th, 2012, 9:27am, woh wrote:| Hi aaaa, the feature you requested is now included. |
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Thanks! It is interesting to see the dates at which various players achieved their respective peak ratings. Chessandgo is approaching the 3rd anniversary of his peak...
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #132 on: Dec 26th, 2012, 5:44pm » |
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Woh, there seems to be something wrong with the recently added feature. Acoording to the diagram, arimaa_masterīs peak WHRH rating occured after a loss against fritzlein in 2007. I havenīt found any other mistakes (yet).
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #133 on: Dec 27th, 2012, 1:11pm » |
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I have arimaa_master's peak rating coinciding with the end of his next game instead.
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woh
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Re: Whole History Ratings
« Reply #134 on: Dec 28th, 2012, 9:23am » |
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on Dec 26th, 2012, 5:44pm, supersamu wrote:| Woh, there seems to be something wrong with the recently added feature. Acoording to the diagram, arimaa_masterīs peak WHRH rating occured after a loss against fritzlein in 2007. I havenīt found any other mistakes (yet). |
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Nice catch! It is fxed now. If you would have checked all players you would have found 2 others.
on Dec 27th, 2012, 1:11pm, aaaa wrote:| I have arimaa_master's peak rating coinciding with the end of his next game instead. |
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That is correct, the link was one game off. Thanks.
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