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Re: Arimaa without captures?
« Reply #15 on: Jul 11th, 2008, 10:43am »
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on Jul 11th, 2008, 4:03am, Werner wrote:
How about 9x9 with 4 traps (c3, c7, g3, g7)?  
 
Each side with 9 rabbits, 2 cats, 2 dogs, 2 horses, 2 camels and 1 elephant?

 
I personally would prefer the current asymmetric version since it imho allows for more variations even though I am a supreme-commander fanboy and would in generall prefer the 1000x1000 board with 1000 rabbits, 400 cats, 300 dogs, 200 horses, 98 camels, 1 elephant and 1 nuke ... and a few more traps Smiley
(second part of  my post was a joke ... sorry)
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Re: Arimaa without captures?
« Reply #16 on: Jul 11th, 2008, 12:03pm »
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How about Arimaa based on chinese chess structure?
 

 
 
 
That is 5 rabbits, 1 elephant, 2 camels, 2 horses, 2 dogs, 2 cats and 2 rats. A rat being weaker than a cat and stronger than a rabbit. The traps being on C3 and G3 and symmetrically on the other side. At the start of the game the pieces can be positioned anywhere (even on the traps) on the first 4 rows of your side of the board.
 
I think it'd be worth a try.
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Re: Arimaa without captures?
« Reply #17 on: Jul 11th, 2008, 9:34pm »
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on Jul 11th, 2008, 10:43am, PMertens wrote:

 
I personally would prefer the current asymmetric version since it imho allows for more variations even though I am a supreme-commander fanboy and would in generall prefer the 1000x1000 board with 1000 rabbits, 400 cats, 300 dogs, 200 horses, 98 camels, 1 elephant and 1 nuke ... and a few more traps :-)
(second part of  my post was a joke ... sorry)

 
I don't know about a 1000x1000 board, but it sounds like you might want to start studying the 36x36 shogi variant known as "Tai Kyoku Shogi." Created in the 16th century, Taikyoku Shogi, which was rediscovered in 1997, is thought to be the most complex chess variant ever made.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taikyoku_shogi
 
Before the rediscovery of Taikyoku Shogi, the 25x25 Tai Shogi was thought to be the grandest chess relative of all time. You can download a computer program that plays it here:
 
http://trout.customer.netspace.net.au/
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Re: Arimaa without captures?
« Reply #18 on: Jul 15th, 2008, 10:40am »
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on Jul 11th, 2008, 9:34pm, The_Jeh wrote:

you might want to start studying the 36x36 shogi variant known as "Tai Kyoku Shogi." Created in the 16th century, Taikyoku Shogi, which was rediscovered in 1997, is thought to be the most complex chess variant ever made.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taikyoku_shogi
http://trout.customer.netspace.net.au/

 
wow ... that looks indeed complex ...
 
I am glad that Omar tried to make the arimaa-rules as simple as possible (while keeping the game complex).
The creator of that shogi-variant probably had something else in mind.
 
Deeply impressed ...
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Re: Arimaa without captures?
« Reply #19 on: Jul 22nd, 2008, 8:50am »
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A while back I played shogi online against computers a few times to get a feel for the game. I always have a hard time trying to remember the different movement of different pieces. Having even more pieces with different movements I think would make it extremely hard. The 36x36 version is probably hitting the limits of human playability. It might have been a variation that was tried, but after actual play did not really catch on.
 
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