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Playing Bots Offline
« on: Apr 15th, 2012, 3:38pm »
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Is there a way to download a Bot to play offline?
 
Everytime I try to get into Arimaa I get a period where all of my games finish because I click send and my move wont send. Even on a good day I lose 6-9 seconds per move to lag- so I have had to give up blitz games.
 
Alternatively, it would be nice to be able to rejoin a game that finished on time and finish it off as an unrated game. At least then it isn't a complete waste of time.
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #1 on: Apr 15th, 2012, 6:58pm »
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In general the server bots aren't available for download.  I had such horrible client troubles when I first learned Arimaa that I bought Bomb just so I could play offline.
 
http://www.smart-games.com/arimaa.html
 
Now there are free bots available, but you have to figure out how to hook them up to an interface, separately available gratis.
 
If you want the cream of the crop you have to pay for the Challenger, bot-briareus, from rbarriera.  Unfortunately, you still have to rely on a free interface in that case, which is less than ideal.
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #2 on: Apr 18th, 2012, 12:38pm »
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Thanks Fritz, that is useful information.
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #3 on: Dec 30th, 2014, 8:48am »
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on Apr 15th, 2012, 6:58pm, Fritzlein wrote:
In general the server bots aren't available for download.  I had such horrible client troubles when I first learned Arimaa that I bought Bomb just so I could play offline.
 
http://www.smart-games.com/arimaa.html
 
Now there are free bots available, but you have to figure out how to hook them up to an interface, separately available gratis.
 
If you want the cream of the crop you have to pay for the Challenger, bot-briareus, from rbarriera.  Unfortunately, you still have to rely on a free interface in that case, which is less than ideal.

 
I like to play offline.
The game from smart-games.com hasn't been updated since February of 2005, and they want $20 for it.  Is that the same bot as the one at the top of the bot ladder (bot_Bomb2005Fast)?
 
Looking on the 'downloads' page, I don't see any options for offline play that sound very challenging, or are they?
 
"If you want the cream of the crop you have to pay for the Challenger, bot-briareus, from rbarriera.  Unfortunately, you still have to rely on a free interface in that case, which is less than ideal."
 
Is it still possible to purchase bot-briareus, or possibly bot_Marwin, bot_Ziltoid, or bot_Sharp?  If so, how?
 
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #4 on: Jan 1st, 2015, 11:02am »
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on Dec 30th, 2014, 8:48am, Nobodo wrote:
The game from smart-games.com hasn't been updated since February of 2005, and they want $20 for it.  Is that the same bot as the one at the top of the bot ladder (bot_Bomb2005Fast)?

 
Yep, it's that engine, just a different interface.
 
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Looking on the 'downloads' page, I don't see any options for offline play that sound very challenging, or are they?

 
The most challenging one is ziltoid, but the interface for offline play is very clunky; you have to enter moves in a separate window and cut to the clipboard.  I think of it only as an analysis tool.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 8th, 2015, 4:53pm »
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Thank you, Fritzlein.
 
Do you know if ziltoid has an api that I could program against to make a GUI for it?
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 9th, 2015, 10:01am »
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on Jan 8th, 2015, 4:53pm, Nobodo wrote:
Thank you, Fritzlein.
 
Do you know if ziltoid has an api that I could program against to make a GUI for it?

I don't know.  I recommend contacting the developer, Ricardo Barreira, through his profile page in the game room: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/gameroom/message.cgi?u=4232
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #7 on: Jan 9th, 2015, 6:05pm »
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Nobodo,
 
I believe that rbarreira, who programmed bot_ziltoid, used the Arimaa Engine Interface: http://arimaa.janzert.com/aei/
 
I made a GUI for AEI in 2010: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=devTalk;action=display ;num=1266712867;start=
 
It's not the best GUI in the world, but it's worth checking out.  Let us know if you do make another one!
 
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #8 on: Jan 12th, 2015, 3:00pm »
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Thank you both.  I'll try again contacting rbarreira; no luck on previous attempt.
 
rabbits - I'll definitely check out that GUI, thank you for sharing it and the AEI documentation link!
 
I'll definitely post the code if I create a GUI or a mod.
 
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 12th, 2015, 3:03pm »
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Dumb question I forgot to ask earlier...
 
What are the rectangular text graphics in your footers/signatures?  i.e. one says 'ATLANTICS' and one says 'ROCKIES'.   I've noticed them on some people's posts and wondered what they represent?
 
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 12th, 2015, 4:31pm »
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on Jan 12th, 2015, 3:03pm, Nobodo wrote:
What are the rectangular text graphics in your footers/signatures?  i.e. one says 'ATLANTICS' and one says 'ROCKIES'.   I've noticed them on some people's posts and wondered what they represent?

For a couple of years we amused ourselves in the off-season (i.e. between World Championship tournaments) by playing team matches in the Arimaa World League.  Each team in a match would field three players, but not necessarily their three strongest, since each team had a "ratings budget" they had to stay within or be penalized.  By all accounts the Arimaa World League was successful and fun, but it has not continued because it relied heavily on megajester to promote and administrate it.
 
I was on team Rockies, which was clearly the coolest team in the league, albeit seldom on top of the standings.
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Re: Playing Bots Offline
« Reply #11 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 8:05am »
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Why did noone recommend David Wu's Android-App?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.icosahedral.arimaa& ;hl= de
 
It is extremely simple to install and use.
 
It uses a former challenger and comes with 10 difficulty-levels, that should provide enough challenge unless you are one of the top players.
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