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(Message started by: Arimabuff on May 26th, 2008, 11:36am)
Title: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by Arimabuff on May 26th, 2008, 11:36am
with BOTH COLORS.

MDDCRRR !!!!

;D
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by omar on Jun 3rd, 2008, 5:52am
Congratulations. How about posting a link to the game here.
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by Arimabuff on Jun 3rd, 2008, 7:18am

on 06/03/08 at 05:52:47, omar wrote:
Congratulations. How about posting a link to the game here.

No problem.

My game with Gold :

http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/jsShowGame.cgi?gid=76898&s=w

My game with Silver :

http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/jsShowGame.cgi?gid=77142&s=b
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by Fritzlein on Jun 7th, 2008, 1:33pm
Replaying these games makes me realize how astonishingly large this handicap is against any competent opponent, never mind the best fixed-performance bot in existence.  It seems you had to make use of every possible weakness of Bomb, including it's unwillingness to advance its camel, reluctance to swarm, reluctance to decentralize its elephant, reluctance to give up a framed rabbit, an occasional ill-judged piece advance, a propensity to put MHH all near the same trap, unwillingness to put its camel next to your elephant even when necessary, and probably lots of other flaws too subtle for me to even notice.

What strikes me most about your victories, apart from their miraculousness, is that unlike some other amazing bot-bashing exploits, this one did not rely on tricking the victim into an unfavorable goal race.  On the contrary you played a control game both times, which should be impossible with a disadvantage in heavy pieces.

I suspect that if Fotland ever gets around to developing on Bomb again, he will find these games more instructive than anything I had to say about Bomb's strategic weaknesses.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by omar on Jun 11th, 2008, 1:16pm
Amazing games. It's going to be hard to top this.
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by Arimabuff on Jun 13th, 2008, 12:39pm

on 06/11/08 at 13:16:49, omar wrote:
Amazing games. It's going to be hard to top this.

Thanks for your kind words Omar.  :)
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by Arimabuff on Jun 13th, 2008, 12:48pm

on 06/07/08 at 13:33:49, Fritzlein wrote:
Replaying these games makes me realize how astonishingly large this handicap is against any competent opponent, never mind the best fixed-performance bot in existence.  It seems you had to make use of every possible weakness of Bomb, including it's unwillingness to advance its camel, reluctance to swarm, reluctance to decentralize its elephant, reluctance to give up a framed rabbit, an occasional ill-judged piece advance, a propensity to put MHH all near the same trap, unwillingness to put its camel next to your elephant even when necessary, and probably lots of other flaws too subtle for me to even notice.

What strikes me most about your victories, apart from their miraculousness, is that unlike some other amazing bot-bashing exploits, this one did not rely on tricking the victim into an unfavorable goal race.  On the contrary you played a control game both times, which should be impossible with a disadvantage in heavy pieces.

I suspect that if Fotland ever gets around to developing on Bomb again, he will find these games more instructive than anything I had to say about Bomb's strategic weaknesses.

Congratulations!

Thanks for this dithyrambic analysis, Karl; it is greatly appreciated.  :)

My modesty authorizes me to agree with you on one point: It took every bit of my knowledge of this bot's reactions to beat it with that handicap... and then some.
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by PMertens on Jul 7th, 2008, 8:10am
very impressive indeed ...
Title: Re: I beat PMERTENS record by 2 RABBITS...
Post by Arimabuff on Jul 8th, 2008, 11:40am

on 07/07/08 at 08:10:45, PMertens wrote:
very impressive indeed ...

Thank you, Paul.  :)


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