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RonWeasley
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chessandgo responds rapidly with the anticipated
44g Ef4w re3w Ee4s Rf1n
The next move in my line was
44s dg3s dg2e Rf2e rf5s
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #1 on: Oct 17th, 2008, 1:30pm » |
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It looks good to me. Let's wrap this one up.
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #2 on: Oct 17th, 2008, 9:01pm » |
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on Oct 17th, 2008, 12:21pm, RonWeasley wrote:chessandgo responds rapidly with the anticipated
44g Ef4w re3w Ee4s Rf1n
The next move in my line was
44s dg3s dg2e Rf2e rf5s |
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After RW's
44b dg3s dg2e Rf2e rf5s
45w Rc2e Rd2e Re2e Ra5n
45b Hg5w eg4n Hf5n Hf6x eg5w
Bomb found goal in 20 for C&G:
46w Db6n Db7w Da7e ra8s
46b ce5w cd5w cc5n cc6w
47w Rd4n Rd5n Rd6n Rb1n
It's not hard to defend against that, but I don't have a particular way in mind yet.
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #3 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 3:57am » |
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At 12 ply, Gnobot suggests
rf5s ce5w Hg5w eg4n
[edit: this is the result at every depth between 10 and 16]
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #4 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 4:42am » |
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44s rf5s dg3w df3e Rf2n? Gold E gets pinned and can't kill our d3 rabbit without giving up his one of his own. And then maybe we can activate our h4 rabbit...
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #5 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 5:12am » |
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This position is very sharp. Gold is 5 steps from making an unstoppable goal threat on the a file. If gold manages to firm up the defence just a little bit, there will be enough time to execute the threat.
44s rf5s dg3s Ch3w rh4s
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #6 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 6:59am » |
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on Oct 18th, 2008, 5:12am, jdb wrote:This position is very sharp. Gold is 5 steps from making an unstoppable goal threat on the a file. If gold manages to firm up the defence just a little bit, there will be enough time to execute the threat.
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It seems we get a goal on 46s (our elephant abandons the horse and moves south) unless his 45g includes moving his b1 rabbit east three times. With the south-west depleted of defending rabbits the threat of our b5 rabbit seems to keep his north-west threat in check. Then we can capture his horse for a rabbit. I tentatively support
44s rf5s dg3s Ch3w rh4s
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #7 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 10:42am » |
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on Oct 18th, 2008, 6:59am, warren wrote:
It seems we get a goal on 46s (our elephant abandons the horse and moves south) unless his 45g includes moving his b1 rabbit east three times. With the south-west depleted of defending rabbits the threat of our b5 rabbit seems to keep his north-west threat in check. Then we can capture his horse for a rabbit. I tentatively support
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44s rf5s dg3s Ch3w rh4s
45g Ee3e rh3n Cg3e Ef3w
. 45s dg2n Rf2e rf4s rf3s (goal is unstoppable)
45g Ee3e Ef3w rf4s rf3x ra5n
. 45s eg4e rh3s eh4s (goal is unstoppable)
45g Rc2e Rd2e rd3w rc3x Ee3w
. 45s eg4e rh3s eh4s (goal is unstoppable)
45g Rb1e Rc1e Rd1e Ra5n
. 45s Cg3w eg4s Rf2w dg2w
. . 46g Hg5e Hh5s Hh4n rh3n
. . 46s eg3n rh4s rh3s eg4s (goal is unstoppable)
45g Rb1e Rc1e Rd1e Re1e
. 45s Cg3w eg4s Rf2w dg2w
. . 46g Hg5e Hh5s Hh4n rh3n
. . . 46s eg3n 4h4s rh3s eg4s (goal is unstoppable)
. . 46g Re2w Ee3s Cf3x Ee2s Rf1e
. . . 46s df2e Rg1w dg2s rh3s (goal is unstoppable)
45g Ee3e Rf2w Ef3s Rc2e
. 45s Cg3w eg4s rh3s ce5w
. . 46g Cf3w dg2s Ef2e Re2e
. . . 46s eg3w Ce2n ef3w cd5w (this results in a tricky position)
. . . . 47g Ce4n Rd4w Rf2w Hg5w
. . . . . 47s Rc4s Rc3x cc5s rd3w rc3s (goal is unstoppable)
What defense does Bomb propose for c&g after this 44s? Is this position a goal in 5 for us?
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #8 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 11:09am » |
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Quote:| What defense does Bomb propose for c&g after this 44s? Is this position a goal in 4 for us? |
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45g rd3w rc3x Ee3w Ed3e Rh1n - if Gold plays that, Bomb announces our victory in 12 steps.
45g Ee3e Rf2w Ef3s Rc2e - see above, but in 20 steps.
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #9 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 11:15am » |
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Just to have the choices open, how about this move.
44s rf5s ce5w cd5w cc5s
gold has to spend 4 steps for defense, then we can have RonWeasley's move.
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eRe: Move 44
« Reply #10 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 11:18am » |
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I'm not sure about 45g Ee3e rh3n Cg3e Ef3w - it may be a bit tougher to nut to crack; gonna check it soon. Though I would not be uncorking the champagne now, JDB's proposal looks surprisingly strong to me.
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #11 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 11:19am » |
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After
44b rf5s dg3s Ch3w rh4s
45w Rb1e Rc1e Rd1e Ra5n
45b Cg3w eg4s Rf2w dg2w
Bomb says we win in 16.
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Re: eRe: Move 44
« Reply #12 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 11:27am » |
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on Oct 18th, 2008, 11:18am, Soter wrote:| I'm not sure about 45g Ee3e rh3n Cg3e Ef3w - it may be a bit tougher to nut to crack; gonna check it soon. Though I would not be uncorking the champagne now, JDB's proposal looks surprisingly strong to me. |
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See my tree. I think that move is a goal in two for us.
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #13 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 12:08pm » |
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oops.. I didn't see jdb's move, that looks strongest.
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Re: Move 44
« Reply #14 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 1:36pm » |
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After
44b rf5s dg3s Ch3w rh4s
45w Ee3e Rf2w Ef3s Rc2e
Bomb declares we win in 20. It continues:
45b Cg3w eg4s rh3s rd3e
46w Ef2s Cf3x Hg5e Hh5s Hh4s
46b Hh3n eg3e rf4s dg2n
Update: it currently seems that jdb's move makes us win in 4 moves, i.e. during move 47s.
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