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mdk
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And Fritz finally moves 25s Md6w Mc6x ed5n cb5w rb4n
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #1 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 2:45am » |
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What about cv(x)D<E<^?
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #2 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 3:45am » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 2:45am, Hippo wrote:
Yeah, +1
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #3 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 6:39am » |
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We must watch carefully silver's rabbit, but it is one step short ...
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RonWeasley
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #4 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 6:52am » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 2:45am, Hippo wrote:
I looked at other moves, like taking the cat with the horse and threatening to flip the dog. The silver elephant can defend. So I'm in favor of Hippo's move.
A silver rabbit push to g2 is easy to defend and makes problems for silver. I was concerned about a silver dog pushing its way onto b3 and leading a e-d attack. Hippo's move makes that plan much harder. It even defends our R.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #5 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 7:18am » |
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A push all the way to g2 might be easily defensible, but what about a combination of both the lead rabbits and the horse to freeze the dog?
To me the East feels too weak, I'd probably cross the horse over the trap, pulling the cat, and advance the elephant. Although I'll admit I'm not the most experienced at this.
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RonWeasley
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #6 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 10:33am » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 7:18am, Sconibulus wrote:A push all the way to g2 might be easily defensible, but what about a combination of both the lead rabbits and the horse to freeze the dog?
To me the East feels too weak, I'd probably cross the horse over the trap, pulling the cat, and advance the elephant. Although I'll admit I'm not the most experienced at this. |
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We could respond to the rabbits-horse advance by moving our e3 H to g3. Our central E might even threaten the silver h, So I'm not worried about the rabbits. If anything, I worry about over-committing our E to the west if we trap the c5 dog on c3 and silver moves the h to g3. However, I think we have the resources to stop any eastern attack and eventually clean it up with a huge material advantage.
I looked at the above suggestion for us and I think it gives silver the b5 rabbit too easily with no compensation. A dog flip doesn't win anything really and pulling the g4 rabbit is available in many future lines.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #7 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 11:47am » |
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How about
25 Ee4n Ee5w dc5s Ed5w
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #8 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 12:11pm » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 11:47am, jdb wrote:How about
25 Ee4n Ee5w dc5s Ed5w
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It will complicate things ... I can hardly orient in such positions ... Silver can centralize his elephant and go for de attack on c3. The a4 rabbit may become dangerous in that case.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #9 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 1:19pm » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 11:47am, jdb wrote:How about
25 Ee4n Ee5w dc5s Ed5w
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This move has merit. However, I'm not sure I like the position after 26s ee6s ee5s Ce3w ee4s, which sets up an e-d attack. We have a protected advanced rabbit, but it will be hard to advance further from this position. We would take the cat with our H on the next move.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #10 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 2:14pm » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 1:19pm, RonWeasley wrote:
This move has merit. However, I'm not sure I like the position after 26s ee6s ee5s Ce3w ee4s, which sets up an e-d attack. We have a protected advanced rabbit, but it will be hard to advance further from this position. We would take the cat with our H on the next move. |
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This would loose dc4. I would expect 26s: ee6s ee5s dd4w (and some rabbit move ... ra7e?)
Oops ... sorry the c6 trap is protected by rb6.
ca5+rb6 hold our rabbit safely ... I cannot see what will we gain from opponent e-d attack. Especially when we need some steps to take the cat.
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26g: Ee4wn cf4s Dg5w
26s: de6en ed6es
if we take the dog on 27g, silver will push our dog to f5 with ef4 and the goal attack would not allow us to make it safe
27g: He3ee Df4s + ? And our position looks well.
Attacks on west are hold by E, and we can start pulling east rabbits.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #11 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 4:23pm » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 1:19pm, RonWeasley wrote:
This move has merit. However, I'm not sure I like the position after 26s ee6s ee5s Ce3w ee4s, which sets up an e-d attack. We have a protected advanced rabbit, but it will be hard to advance further from this position. We would take the cat with our H on the next move. |
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26g Ee4n Ee5w dc5s Ed5w
26s ee6s ee5s Ce3w ee4s
27g Cb3n Cc3w Ra2n xxxx (maybe Rh2w, or Ra1n)
This threatens to frame the dog on c3 and makes a wall so the dog can't run away.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #12 on: Dec 7th, 2009, 11:28pm » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 4:23pm, jdb wrote:
26g Ee4n Ee5w dc5s Ed5w
26s ee6s ee5s Ce3w ee4s
27g Cb3n Cc3w Ra2n xxxx (maybe Rh2w, or Ra1n)
This threatens to frame the dog on c3 and makes a wall so the dog can't run away.
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27s hg6wss cf4w
28g dc4s Ec5s Ra2e xxx (Rh1w)
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... E could be hardly rotated from the frame and D is in big danger, the cat advantage is lost.
The frame plan would not work at all with 26s ending with db4 ed4.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #13 on: Dec 8th, 2009, 6:54am » |
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on Dec 7th, 2009, 4:23pm, jdb wrote:
26g Ee4n Ee5w dc5s Ed5w
26s ee6s ee5s Ce3w ee4s
27g Cb3n Cc3w Ra2n xxxx (maybe Rh2w, or Ra1n)
This threatens to frame the dog on c3 and makes a wall so the dog can't run away.
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27s rg5w cf4w rf5w ce5w
Then we get the dog frame but not much else. I don't think the position is not enough compensation for letting the cat go.
So I still prefer 26g cf4s cf3x Dg4w Ee4n Ee5w.
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Re: Move 26
« Reply #14 on: Dec 9th, 2009, 5:00am » |
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I much prefer the simple, strong cat capture over the dog push to c4, which could get very messy. The elephant move to d5 is great – we simultaneously protect our rabbit, threaten the c5 dog and leave Fritzlein with a poorly placed silver elephant.
Those eastern silver rabbits look really dangerous with our vacant g3, but I can't see any tangible threat. I think we're OK and we can move our horse over to g3 soon, possibly next move.
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