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Isaac Grosof
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Fritzlein plays 26s ed6w dc5s dc4w ec6s
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #1 on: Dec 14th, 2009, 1:37am » |
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I really don't know what to do next. The Rb5 seems to be lost.
We have to work with "swarm" on east and possible ed attack on west supporting the ra4.
My move generator gives H>D>>rv. Again r is one step short from goal. Plan is rD<H>rvx on next turn if silver takes the Rb5.
If silver chooses ed attack insted, our e is nearby. If he chooses to fight on east, E can help either.
It's just first thought. I am not fun of letting the Rb5 to be framed and I am not sure which direction our E should moved so it may be positioned well  .
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Manuel
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #2 on: Dec 14th, 2009, 3:09am » |
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Next plan should indeed be to kill couple of rabbits in east, but I would first remove a few weaknesses from our position:
Rh1< Ra2^ Cb3v Df4>
(if we don't move the cat, silver can play: ev R> d^ C^)
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #3 on: Dec 14th, 2009, 4:46am » |
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on Dec 14th, 2009, 3:09am, Manuel wrote:Next plan should indeed be to kill couple of rabbits in east, but I would first remove a few weaknesses from our position:
Rh1< Ra2^ Cb3v Df4>
(if we don't move the cat, silver can play: ev R> d^ C^) |
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I am not sure how much dangerous would be pulling our cat.
He must at first kill Rc5, otherwise there will be a goal threat.
We should defend the a4 rabbit ... (I am just looking on the paper not moving stones).
On the contrary what with the response rg5<hv^D^ to your move?
We can also rotate DC ... C>D<^Rh1< (we can choose C ending on a3 b2 or c3)
May be Ra2^cv H>> or rather Ra2>C<H>>?, but in both cases
silver can pull our rabbit to b3 ... is it a problem?
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Manuel
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #4 on: Dec 14th, 2009, 5:28am » |
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After:
27g Rh1< Ra2^ Cb3v Df4>
27s rg5< hv^ D^
we can play:
28g E>rvE>Dv
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #5 on: Dec 14th, 2009, 6:31am » |
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That may lead to ed attack edv cR> we'll have to watch Ra4.
BTW: hvR>dC^ ... we can take E^<>r>x (ER attack )
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Manuel
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #6 on: Dec 14th, 2009, 7:18am » |
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on Dec 14th, 2009, 6:31am, Hippo wrote:| BTW: hvR>dC^ ... we can take E^<>r> (ER attack ) |
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You are right. So we don't need to move the cat at the moment:
27g Rh1< D>>rv (or maybe actually D>v)
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #7 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 7:14am » |
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The rabbit is hanging on b5. Its likely dead, since its not worth it to tie down our elephant to save it.
The g file is open. It would be a good idea to put a rabbit on the g file, to reduce silver's tactical options.
Since gold is up a piece (the cat), strategically we want to play with the elephants together. This will leave us with an extra piece to play with on the rest of the board.
Gold wants its elephant to be near silver's horse, to increase gold's tactical options.
So how about something like,
27g Rh8w Ed5e Ee5e dd6s
This threatens the horse and the dog, so the b5 rabbit is safe.
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #8 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 8:08am » |
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I wish we have Rh8 rabbit, the move does not look bad, but I am not sure it puts the elephants together.
e> R> de5^ re7>.
I know, plans could be changed ... didn't we plan to place H to g3.
Yes Rg1 would give us long term safety. But do we have free step for it?
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #9 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 10:56am » |
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on Dec 15th, 2009, 8:08am, Hippo wrote:I wish we have Rh8 rabbit, the move does not look bad, but I am not sure it puts the elephants together.
e> R> de5^ re7>.
I know, plans could be changed ... didn't we plan to place H to g3.
Yes Rg1 would give us long term safety. But do we have free step for it? |
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Yes, Rg1 instead. Thats happens when I try to post without looking at the board.
Another option would be
26g Rh1w Ed5e de6w Ee5n
This only threatens the horse, but it takes two steps to protect the f6 trap.
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #10 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 12:47pm » |
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It looks better ... looks like silver needs full turn for response
(ra7>>>re7>?).
But what about H> instead of Rh1<?. Yes, it will require one more step in the future, but we need not hurry unless silver spends steps for goal attack start.
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #11 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 2:06pm » |
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on Dec 15th, 2009, 12:47pm, Hippo wrote:It looks better ... looks like silver needs full turn for response
(ra7>>>re7>?).
But what about H> instead of Rh1<?. Yes, it will require one more step in the future, but we need not hurry unless silver spends steps for goal attack start. |
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I am not sure where the proper place is for the horse. Since the camels have been exchanged, it is now almost a camel. In the early game, it is nice to have the camel in the centre so it can go to either side of the board. However, later in the game, maybe it is better to commit the camel.
Silver has most of his pieces on the left flank, so I would guess the horse will be needed to defend on that side. However, gold's attack is most likely to happen on the right flank, and it would be nice to be able to use the horse for that.
The purpose of Rh1 is to block goal threats. Most piece captures take 4 steps. If silver creates a goal threat, it is impossible to capture a piece using 4 steps. This can be very important. If silver only needs one step to create a threat, it means a defensive piece can use 7 steps instead of 4 to take up a defensive position. Although Rh1w is only one step, I think it is an important step to take.
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #12 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 8:20pm » |
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I apologize, I don't understand the notation that uses < and >, so I'm not 100% certain what the current proposed moves are. Given that, I'll just throw out a couple of the possibilities that I see.
How about ...
1. 27g Ed5n de6s Ed6e Df4n
--> Threatens the horse , dog, or a rabbit.
< possible responses >
27s hg6n hg7w rh6w ( any 4th )
or 27s Cb3e db4s ec5s hg6n
2. 27g Ed5n He3e Hf3e Hg3n
--> preventing the rabbit capture and matching H for h.
Leaves the West flank open to the dog + E attack.
Just a couple of ideas.
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #13 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 9:57pm » |
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Quad: 27g Re1n Ed5s Ed4w Df4e
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Re: Move 27
« Reply #14 on: Dec 15th, 2009, 10:19pm » |
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Ice: Possibility one gives fritz a goal by charging the rabbit.
I'm a fan of Ed5s Ed5w Rh1w Dc2w
It'll give us a threat on that dog and make those rabbits in the east less dangerous by filling the open path.
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