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Fritzlein
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2008 Postal Tournament
« on: Apr 13th, 2008, 8:31am » |
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And they're off! I'm so excited. I can't wait to see if my rabbit columns can hold up under deeper analysis, or if they were just a sort of trick that only works in live games.
The number of players is down this year, but the number of games is still high since most of the folks that did sign up are in for a lot of games.
| 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | | Players | 15 | 19 | 20 | 15 | | Games | 75 | 95 | 85 | 84 |
This year we will get to see the first ever BvB postal as sharp takes on OpFor. That should be a very intriguing contest, particularly if both developers are still working on their bots as the match progresses.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #1 on: Apr 13th, 2008, 10:03am » |
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Good games and a lot of fun to everyone !
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #2 on: Apr 13th, 2008, 11:00am » |
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Does anyone knows the trend for the ratings of the players in the postal tournament?
It seems that this year it's gonna be far tougher for us low ranking people.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #3 on: Apr 13th, 2008, 1:04pm » |
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on Apr 13th, 2008, 11:00am, nbarriga wrote:| It seems that this year it's gonna be far tougher for us low ranking people. |
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Yes, this year is going to be more brutal for the lower-ranked players. If 400 rating points makes a mismatch, then a full quarter of the games will be mismatches.
| 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | | Players | 15 | 19 | 20 | 15 | | Games | 75 | 95 | 85 | 84 | | Mismatches | 9 | 5 | 3 | 21 |
This year for some reason there weren't a lot of newer players signing up as there have been in years past, and a few of the old faithful players (99of9, jdb, naveed) didn't return. If there were more players, then the games everyone requested would be used up on pairings closer to their own rating, and the percentage of mismatches would be lower.
I guess we just didn't promote the tournament enough this year. Or maybe the longer format of the World Championship wore some people out, and if we had waited longer to start the Postal Tournament, there would be more game-hungry people around.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #4 on: Apr 13th, 2008, 7:34pm » |
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I'm curious what OpFor's thinking policy is going to be for this tournament. I notice OpFor took nine hours to make its last move against me; it can't be thinking too terribly long on each game if it got back around to me so quickly. Janzert, do you mind sharing your time management strategy? Of course I understand if that's a trade secret.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #5 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 9:49am » |
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I'm starting out with opfor thinking a minimum of 2 hours and maximum of 4 hours for a move. I may end up deciding I need my computer for other things and cut that back though.
One thing yesterday was that I ended up restarting it a few times as I found a few bugs in the manager and then later realised a search "improvement" I made on saturday introduced a bug in the search. So a few games actually got multiple moves before the bot cycled through the full list of games.
Janzert
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #6 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 3:37pm » |
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on Apr 14th, 2008, 9:49am, Janzert wrote:| [...]a search "improvement" I made on saturday introduced a bug in the search. |
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It's wonderful to hear that you are continuing active development!  Seriously, it's a nice gift for you to enter OpFor in the tournament, and I hope the games give you food for thought and guidance for taking OpFor to the next level.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #7 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 12:07pm » |
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Game 88295:
They're mistre and The_Jeh.
Yes mistre and The_Jeh.
One is a genius,
The other one ... meh.
They came to play the game.
They hope it won't be lame.
They're hist'ry, they're mistre and The_Jeh (jeh jeh jeh)
They're playing really fast.
They're having so much fun.
If the future's like the past,
They'll be the first ones done.
They're mistre and The_Jeh.
Yes mistre and The_Jeh.
They're simpletons, oh yeah.
They make you say, "Bleh!"
To prove they're dumb as logs,
They'll blunder both their dogs.
They're hist'ry, they're mistre and The_Jeh (jeh jeh jeh)
NARF!
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #8 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 12:47pm » |
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Sung to the tune of?
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #10 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 1:46pm » |
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My game against Arif_Syed has actually caught up with that one, you might need a new song 
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #11 on: Apr 17th, 2008, 9:12am » |
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Opfor is moving in my game, but the interface always shows it as my turn. Can this be fixed?
Sharp on the other hand, hasn't done anything.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #12 on: Apr 17th, 2008, 10:15am » |
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on Apr 17th, 2008, 9:12am, mistre wrote:| Opfor is moving in my game, but the interface always shows it as my turn. Can this be fixed? |
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That's weird, exactly the same thing is happening to me. The e-mails are correctly informing me when it is my turn to move, but the game room shows that it is always my move. The problem only occurs with OpFor, and no other opponent. Might it have something to do with Janzert's customized bot interface?
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We need to send lightvector an e-mail.
But everyone else has started, and Arif_Syed vs. The_Jeh is up to move 20! I'm still trying to figure out if chessandgo's move 3 inevitably puts me at disadvantage. I would hate for my new setup with a wing camel as Silver to be so easily refuted.
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #13 on: Apr 17th, 2008, 12:38pm » |
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on Apr 17th, 2008, 10:15am, Fritzlein wrote:
That's weird, exactly the same thing is happening to me. The e-mails are correctly informing me when it is my turn to move, but the game room shows that it is always my move. The problem only occurs with OpFor, and no other opponent. Might it have something to do with Janzert's customized bot interface? |
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Hmm, that is wierd. Given that it has only happened with OpFor I would guess that it's being caused by the custom interface as well, but I'm at a loss as to what it could be.
Janzert
p.s. I increased the logging level to record all network traffic, so after the next move I'll take a close look and see if I can spot anything that looks wrong.
p.p.s Does anyone remember if the games updated correctly for zombie last year?
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Re: 2008 Postal Tournament
« Reply #14 on: Apr 17th, 2008, 2:08pm » |
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I sometimes also don't get gameroom updates of the correct move number, but not just from my game with OpFor, but in other games too. For example, currently the gameroom says it's my move #2 in my postal game with nbarriga, but I have already made that move (over 19 hours ago). So the problem may be more global than Janzert's interface for OpFor.
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