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Is Chess a Sport
« on: Jan 21st, 2011, 12:56pm »
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I didn't know that the International Olympics Committee had accepted Chess as a sport now.
 
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2010/12/16/riddell.chess.cha mp.pkg.cnn?iref=allsearch
 
That's cool. Maybe there will be some Chess coverage in the 2014 Olympics.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 21st, 2011, 2:44pm »
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Don't get your hopes up for chess coverage at the 2014 Olympics; first there has to be an event!  Just because the IOC has recognized chess as a sport doesn't mean they will hold a tournament and pass out medals.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_sports
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 22nd, 2011, 1:50am »
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I had always been under the impression that the reason chess wasn't an Olympic sport had more to do with FIDE not getting their act together and the whole PCA fiasco.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 22nd, 2011, 9:46am »
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on Jan 21st, 2011, 2:44pm, Fritzlein wrote:
Don't get your hopes up for chess coverage at the 2014 Olympics; first there has to be an event!  Just because the IOC has recognized chess as a sport doesn't mean they will hold a tournament and pass out medals.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_sports

 
The list of recognized sports which don't have events is a bit confusing. I don't understand why Karate or Sumo don't have events while Boxing and Wrestling do. Maybe there is a limit on how many events they can accommodate during the Olympics.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #4 on: Apr 19th, 2011, 8:36pm »
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The answer is no.  /debate
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #5 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 12:19am »
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on Jan 22nd, 2011, 1:50am, megajester wrote:
I had always been under the impression that the reason chess wasn't an Olympic sport had more to do with FIDE not getting their act together and the whole PCA fiasco.

 
Hmm... I always thought chess wasn't an Olympic event because it is not an athletic activity. Yes, you need stamina, etc., etc.... but you know what I mean.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 12:47am »
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on Apr 20th, 2011, 12:19am, The_Jeh wrote:

 
Hmm... I always thought chess wasn't an Olympic event because it is not an athletic activity. Yes, you need stamina, etc., etc.... but you know what I mean.

Ah yes, but you're talking about why chess shouldn't be an Olympic sport. I'm talking about why it isn't. So unless you're up for a game of strawman... Grin
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #7 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 8:04am »
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"Chess is a sport, a violent sport"
Marcel Duchamp
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #8 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 1:36pm »
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on Apr 20th, 2011, 12:19am, The_Jeh wrote:

 
Hmm... I always thought chess wasn't an Olympic event because it is not an athletic activity. Yes, you need stamina, etc., etc.... but you know what I mean.

 
Wiki includes "mind sports" in the definition:
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A sport is an organized, competitive, entertaining, and skillful activity requiring commitment, strategy, and fair play, in which a winner can be defined by objective means. It is governed by a set of rules or customs. Activities such as card games and board games, are classified as "mind sports" and some are recognized as Olympic sports, requiring primarily mental skills and mental physical involvement.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

 
But the Oxford Dictionary doesn't:
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An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sport?view=uk

 
I think it depends more on one's feeling than on rational arguments. I designed a fair couple of games and a few I would consider "mental sport weapons", so almost impicitly I consider Chess, Go, Shogi and International Draughts as such, among others. But there's little "truth" in these matters Wink
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #9 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 4:20pm »
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I guess what most people consider a sport is something that requires fine tuned motor skills. Of course playing chess also requires motor skills, but that's not what distinguishes the players abilities.
 
If you don't consider motor skills in defining a sport than it really is not different than any other sport played between individuals; like boxing or wrestling.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 4:32pm »
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And then there's ice dancing.  Now the discussion gets really ugly.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #11 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 8:32pm »
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Are videogames soprts? What about a football videogame? What about a chess videogame?, no because you are just seated there controlling a machine, yeah but then Nascar is a sport, no?, no thats different because you are risking your life, and what if someone is threatening it your life if you lose the game, does that makes it a sport? or what if there is a chess club that requires their members to be athletic to play and they give beating to the losers, does that make what they are doing a sport? Bah, semantics...
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #12 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 11:22pm »
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One thing that is definitely a sport: arguing over what is a sport!  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 21st, 2011, 2:37am »
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on Apr 20th, 2011, 11:22pm, Fritzlein wrote:
One thing that is definitely a sport: arguing over what is a sport!  Grin

Some people even pay for the privilege...
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #14 on: Apr 21st, 2011, 10:03pm »
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Of course chess is a sport. Especially when you combine it with boxing: http://www.chessboxing.com/
This is for real by the way.
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