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UruramTururam
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #15 on: Apr 22nd, 2011, 12:57am » |
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Yup, there's also "diving chess" - the board is 2-2.2 meters under the surface and it,s invisible from there. Players have to make a move during single dives. 
And - for me - a few mind games are sports: chess, Go, Bridge to name three of them.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #16 on: Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:07pm » |
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So some people think that chess is a sport, what about chess on a videogame, is that a sport too?
I'm pretty sure that some people will say yes even when they think that a football videogame is not a sport.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #17 on: Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:16pm » |
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Most games with balls are sports.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #18 on: Apr 22nd, 2011, 11:53pm » |
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I think we can all agree that chess is a "game." What is the difference between a "game" and a "sport?" The word "sport" is often used these days to refer to games involving athletic or other muscular ability or coordination. The first known use of the word in such a sense is from 1523. Earlier, around 1440, it was known to refer to a "pleasant passtime." However, "its earliest sense is preserved in phrases such as 'in sport,' 'in jest.'" The original use of "sport" was as a verb meaning "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself." (Online Etymology Dictionary, Dictionary.com)
My own use of the word sport, at least it seems, is to refer to those recreations for which a good number of people train or practice. So, chess, basketball, and fishing are sports, whereas Hide and Seek is not. In this sense of the word, a game can start out not as a sport, and then become one. Alternatively, one may use the word "sport" to refer to a game and its greater recognized organization as a whole. Hide and Seek is a game, but as there is no organization, no significant constituency of individuals devoted to becoming better at it or studing it or just discussing it, there is no Hide and Seek "sport." And finally, a "sport" in this sense need not be a "game" per se, such as in the fishing example.
But remember, like all words (especially in English), "sport" has many different subtle shades of meaning.
And while I love chess, I'm not particularly aggravated by its lack of presence at the Olympics, because as I hinted at, it seems that athletic or physically-dependent games are the Olympics' intention.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #19 on: Apr 23rd, 2011, 12:19am » |
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on Apr 22nd, 2011, 11:53pm, The_Jeh wrote:The original use of "sport" was as a verb meaning "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself."
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Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
Which brought us hither,
Can in a moment travel thither,
And see the children sport upon the shore,
And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore.
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #20 on: Jun 5th, 2011, 5:43pm » |
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on Apr 23rd, 2011, 12:19am, Fritzlein wrote:
Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
Which brought us hither,
Can in a moment travel thither,
And see the children sport upon the shore,
And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore.
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That is beautiful Fritzlein. Yours? You credited no one...
Chess in the Olympics? Yes! Is Chess a sport, though? Of course not! It's an mind game. Should mind games be in the Olympics? Yes!!
It seems that forever people have been trying to peg Chess into an Art, Science, or sport. What have the greatest chessplayesrs said on this subject?
Emanuel Lasker: "Chess is a struggle"
Victor Korchnoi: concurred Struggle
Sofia Polgar: "Chess is a fight!"
So far, not a single Sport, Science or art. I'll add more, but I expect the Arimaa community to also add more. OK, when I confirm Mikhail Botvinik's quote, it will knock off science. But still, not a single "sport"...
Your thoughts?
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #21 on: Jun 5th, 2011, 6:43pm » |
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on Jun 5th, 2011, 5:43pm, SpeedRazor wrote:| That is beautiful Fritzlein. Yours? You credited no one... |
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I wish I could write like that! It is Wordsworth, Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood, line 168-172. The lines I quoted above could be considered a closing parenthesis to the opening parenthesis in lines 59-66:
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
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Re: Is Chess a Sport
« Reply #22 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 2:39pm » |
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on Jun 5th, 2011, 5:43pm, SpeedRazor wrote:It seems that forever people have been trying to peg Chess into an Art, Science, or sport. What have the greatest chessplayesrs said on this subject?
Emanuel Lasker: "Chess is a struggle"
Victor Korchnoi: concurred Struggle
Sofia Polgar: "Chess is a fight!"
So far, not a single Sport, Science or art. I'll add more, but I expect the Arimaa community to also add more. OK, when I confirm Mikhail Botvinik's quote, it will knock off science. But still, not a single "sport"...
Your thoughts? |
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If you google chess is a sport you will find some interesting viewpoints in the affermative. Marcel Duchamp is often quoted as saying "Chess is a sport, a violent sport" and he certainly was a gifted player as well as a great artist.
I like to think of certain games, including Chess, as "mindsport weapons", in fact "mindsports" implies as much. But where precisely are the boundaries of sport? I feel that way more than I could possibly argue that way.
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