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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #135 on: Sep 19th, 2011, 5:23pm »
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Is the nodes per sec calculation you are both using such that a node equals a position that has been passed to the evaluation function?
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #136 on: Sep 19th, 2011, 5:26pm »
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Thanks tize. Yes, speed optimization probably helps.
 
on Sep 19th, 2011, 5:23pm, Swynndla wrote:
Is the nodes per sec calculation you are both using such that a node equals a position that has been passed to the evaluation function?

 
Not for me. At the top of the search function (and qsearch too) I increment the node count.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #137 on: Sep 24th, 2011, 7:31am »
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In Marwin I increment the node counter in my apply_move function which in the search is a step, push or pull, passes doesn't use the function so they are not counted. This will most likely give Marwin a higher node count than if I counted the number of calls to the search function.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #138 on: Oct 5th, 2011, 3:21pm »
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on Sep 7th, 2011, 3:36pm, Hippo wrote:

 
Seems around 150 point difference is there often, but 200 points would not be achieved.

 
Wow novacat got 200.5 improvement ... congrats.
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« Reply #139 on: Oct 6th, 2011, 1:06am »
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So finally, after Jean was defeated by Karl, Eric was defeated by Greg and we will not have an absolute winer. The cadidates for best postal mixer score are Karl and Eric. novacat and briareus shined ..
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #140 on: Oct 6th, 2011, 8:23pm »
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on Oct 5th, 2011, 3:21pm, Hippo wrote:

 
Wow novacat got 200.5 improvement ... congrats.
Thanks Hippo.  I may not be quite above 200 at the end though; I checked my rating after my last game and it had changed by 199.8 Tongue . Seems I am still fluctuating a little because of everyone else's games.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #141 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 12:05pm »
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What games are left?  I find
 
Fritzlein vs. Adanac
camelback vs. arimaa_master
ChrisB vs. arimaa_master
ocmiente vs. ChrisB
Nombril vs. Fritzlein
Hippo vs. Nombril
omar vs. woh
 
Am I missing any?  Several of these games are on the verge of finishing, but ocmiente vs. ChrisB has had no captures so far!  I keep wondering when we will first hit the 300-day time limit for a Postal Mixer game, and it never happens, but maybe this year...
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #142 on: Oct 11th, 2011, 1:17pm »
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on Oct 10th, 2011, 12:05pm, Fritzlein wrote:
What games are left?  I find
 
Fritzlein vs. Adanac
camelback vs. arimaa_master
ChrisB vs. arimaa_master
ocmiente vs. ChrisB
Nombril vs. Fritzlein
Hippo vs. Nombril
omar vs. woh
 
Am I missing any?  Several of these games are on the verge of finishing, but ocmiente vs. ChrisB has had no captures so far!  I keep wondering when we will first hit the 300-day time limit for a Postal Mixer game, and it never happens, but maybe this year...

 
Links added Wink
Fritzlein vs. Adanac[edit]*5[/edit]
camelback vs. arimaa_master[edit]*4[/edit]
ChrisB vs. arimaa_master[edit]*2[/edit]
ocmiente vs. ChrisB [edit]*1[/edit]
Nombril vs. Fritzlein[edit]*6[/edit]
Hippo vs. Nombril[edit]*7[/edit]
omar vs. woh[edit]*3[/edit]
 
[edit]* url chaged as the game has been finished[/edit]
BTW: ocmiente just captured first piece ... and 300 day limit ... does it mean next 54 full turns at least?
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #143 on: Oct 12th, 2011, 5:01pm »
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on Oct 10th, 2011, 12:05pm, Fritzlein wrote:
but ocmiente vs. ChrisB has had no captures so far!  I keep wondering when we will first hit the 300-day time limit for a Postal Mixer game, and it never happens, but maybe this year...

 
Interesting timing, that game has just finished Cheesy
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #144 on: Oct 12th, 2011, 5:08pm »
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on May 1st, 2011, 1:56pm, Fritzlein wrote:

Caution: Since these ratings are based on few games played far apart in time, they could swing wildly based on the results of a single event.  In fact, I'll bet someone in this list has moved over 200 points by tournament end.  I'll paste some current WHRP ratings here so we can compare later for an idea of the volatility:
 
Fritzlein      2772.9
chessandgo      2537.8
Nombril      2511.8
Adanac      2367.1
Hippo      2253.7
RonWeasley      2249.5
ChrisB      2174.4
ocmiente      2158.6
Tuks      2097.8
blue22      2040.7
mistre      2035.9
camelback      2007.1
omar      1990.5
novacat      1839.3
toby1kenobi      1749.8

 
Nombril lost only one game ... with rabbits and won 9 games. That lead to drop of his WHRP from 2518.8 to 2457.2. This shows how unstable this rating is at the top of the ladder.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #145 on: Oct 12th, 2011, 6:25pm »
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on Oct 12th, 2011, 5:08pm, Hippo wrote:
Nombril lost only one game ... with rabbits and won 9 games. That lead to drop of his WHRP from 2518.8 to 2457.2. This shows how unstable this rating is at the top of the ladder.

Yes, wasn't Nombril briefly #1 in WHRP, before his lone loss, and while I was still 4-1?
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #146 on: Oct 12th, 2011, 10:50pm »
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Is it unstable at the top, or unstable because of the small amount of postal games I have played?
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #147 on: Oct 13th, 2011, 3:27am »
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on Oct 12th, 2011, 10:50pm, Nombril wrote:
Is it unstable at the top, or unstable because of the small amount of postal games I have played?

 
I think the instability is more due to the ratio of games win vs games lost being very high. I remember noticing that Fritzlein's rating also dropped a lot after he lost a game against mistre, and he has many more postal games than you (but also has very few games lost).
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #148 on: Oct 13th, 2011, 9:28am »
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on Sep 8th, 2011, 5:28pm, Fritzlein wrote:

Aren't you jumping the gun a bit?  Adanac is down 178 points and could still lose to me.  I am down 154 points and could still lose to Nombril or chessandgo.  And Nombril is up 105 and could still win his remaining four games!

At least at the 8:0 record Nombril was at around 2512+105
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #149 on: Oct 14th, 2011, 7:42am »
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on Oct 13th, 2011, 9:28am, Hippo wrote:

At least at the 8:0 record Nombril was at around 2512+105

Right, which is just about equal to where I was after losing to mistre, when I said I was down 154 points.  Maybe I always stayed ahead by a couple of points, but it was a virtual tie.
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