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Arimanator
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #15 on: Sep 2nd, 2005, 3:15pm » |
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Rd4e Md5s dd6s Rd7n Goal! Believe it or not but I saw it almost immediately
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RonWeasley
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #16 on: Sep 2nd, 2005, 4:13pm » |
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Yes, I believe it. I looked at all the wrong things first, but still found the solution in about 30 seconds. Easier than the last one. However, this is the kind of thing I might miss during a game. I think the bashers' immobilazation experience is a great advantage here. Good players, and eventually good bots, should consider setting up this kind of misdirection. Anybody doing this already?
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Fritzlein
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #17 on: Sep 2nd, 2005, 6:28pm » |
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on Sep 2nd, 2005, 3:01pm, jdb wrote:Here is one I couldn't figure out |
| Do you mean you missed it in actual play, Jeff? That's the sort of thing I miss all the time in a game situation, but when it is given that Gold can move and win, I think differently about it. It's like when I'm playing Bomb and putting on pressure, and suddenly Bomb takes only a few seconds to move. Then I know I have a forced win and I look for it. If Bomb uses the full time, in contrast, I conclude that I don't have a forced goal, so I don't bother to look for one, and I move on general principles instead.
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clauchau
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #18 on: Sep 3rd, 2005, 5:21am » |
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Wow, I didn't figure this one out after 4 minutes. I doubted it was a one-move mate again. It's like I cannot see the color of blocking rabbits.
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99of9
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #19 on: Sep 3rd, 2005, 10:25am » |
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on Sep 2nd, 2005, 6:28pm, Fritzlein wrote:It's like when I'm playing Bomb and putting on pressure, and suddenly Bomb takes only a few seconds to move. Then I know I have a forced win and I look for it. If Bomb uses the full time, in contrast, I conclude that I don't have a forced goal, so I don't bother to look for one, and I move on general principles instead. |
| I think this is a big problem with the way bots use their time. If they see a goal, they should definitely wait a random time to ensure they don't give too much away.
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Fritzlein
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #20 on: Sep 3rd, 2005, 7:33pm » |
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on Sep 3rd, 2005, 10:25am, 99of9 wrote: I think this is a big problem with the way bots use their time. If they see a goal, they should definitely wait a random time to ensure they don't give too much away. |
| I thought Gnobot was programmed to do this, but just now Gnobot2005CC saw a forced goal and moved in two seconds. Is that a feature for Gnobot only and not for the CC version?
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99of9
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #21 on: Sep 3rd, 2005, 11:13pm » |
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No, gnobot doesn't have that feature either - I'm just saying it would be nice
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