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Fritzlein
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Proper designation of AWL games
« on: Dec 17th, 2011, 9:18am » |
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Megajester, you are doing a great job, and I hate to make any more work for you, but there is one detail that a different thread brought to my attention: on Dec 17th, 2011, 7:21am, woh wrote:World League and Auto Postal games are included in the WHRE calculation. All rated games on the Event games page are counted. |
| Because Omar has elevated the importance of WHRE ratings (they now determine the seeding of the World Championship), it is important for AWL games to be correctly recorded as such in the database. In particular, when a game is rescheduled by the players, the original should not count for WHRE and the replacement should. A quick visit to the Event Games link woh provided shows that this hasn't been happening. Sadly, this bookkeeping must be done manually by the tournament director, and perhaps even done before the round is marked done in the tournament tool, so it might not even be possible to correct this for past games. Thus this note is basically about the future running of AWL.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #1 on: Dec 17th, 2011, 3:42pm » |
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*Sighs* Yeah that came to my mind as well. Why can't I just log in somewhere and just enter in a different game number? The other option would be to set up something whereby players can reschedule their own game on the system by mutual agreement.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #2 on: Dec 17th, 2011, 3:53pm » |
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on Dec 17th, 2011, 3:42pm, megajester wrote:Why can't I just log in somewhere and just enter in a different game number? |
| As TD, you can log in and enter a different game number. It is part of the TD tool, at least as far as I remember. But maybe only for the current round and not for prior rounds. I'll bet if you have all the game numbers to add/remove as official games, (and you seemed to be putting them on the Web page, so they are in your spreadsheet, right?) Omar would be willing to do it for you with SQL commands. There's an extra two weeks after AWL ends and the World Championship begins to get it sorted out.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #3 on: Dec 20th, 2011, 4:03pm » |
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The WHRE ratings published today include the missing AWL games. 15 games previously not included now are: 2010 | R1 | 142497 | camelback - Nevermind | Nevermind substituted for chessandgo | 2010 | R3 | 144946 | starjots - rabbits | | 2010 | R9 | 152941 | Korhil - novacat | | 2010 | R10 | 154062 | starjots - novacat | novacat substituted for speek | 2010 | R10 | 154100 | ChrisB - rabbits | postponed | 2011 | R1 | 193282 | Heyckie - mistre | Heyckie substituted for Hippo | 2011 | R4 | 197303 | novacat - woh | novacat substituted for mistre | 2011 | R4 | 197404 | aaaa - cvic | rescheduled | 2011 | R5 | 198649 | Boo - rbarreira | postponed | 2011 | R6 | 200020 | Simon - ocmiente | ocmiente substituted for mistre | 2011 | R6 | 200067 | Hippo - NJames | Hippo substituted for cvic | 2011 | R9 | 203464 | ginrunner - clyring | postponed | 2011 | R10 | 203776 | woh - ChrisB | postponed | 2011 | R10 | 203785 | Nombril - omar | postponed | 2011 | R10 | 203829 | Boo - novacat | restarted | I didn't had to exclude any of the original games since they all were already unrated.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #4 on: Dec 20th, 2011, 6:38pm » |
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Thanks for fixing this, woh. Compared to the previous ranking, Tuks eked past Nombril thanks to an autopostal win, and ocmiente leapfrogged woh and Simon thanks to his recent AWL victory over Hirocon and previously uncounted AWL victory over Simon. Froody jumped way up the rankings, but not enough to overtake Harren for the bottom seed. Clearly there could be more changes to the rankings before the World Championship seeds are finalized.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #5 on: Dec 21st, 2011, 2:24am » |
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Thank you very very much woh. Saved me a job.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #6 on: Dec 27th, 2011, 1:23pm » |
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One more on the tie breaker round this weekend, game 206210 should be an event game.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #7 on: Dec 27th, 2011, 3:26pm » |
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Thanks Nombril That game is included in today's WHRE.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #8 on: Dec 28th, 2011, 2:47am » |
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I had already changed it on the system so it shows as a R13 game. Shame I hadn't realised I could do that earlier...
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #9 on: Dec 29th, 2011, 6:46pm » |
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on Dec 20th, 2011, 4:03pm, woh wrote:2011 | R5 | 198649 | Boo - rbarreira | postponed | |
| That is the replaced game. You must mean 198607. Also, the infamous Nombril-722caasi game has now been unrated. You should recalculate the ratings based on that as well.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #10 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 2:07am » |
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Quote:That is the replaced game. You must mean 198607. |
| 198607 should be rated game. 198649 should be not rated.
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Re: Proper designation of AWL games
« Reply #11 on: Jan 1st, 2012, 10:44am » |
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on Dec 29th, 2011, 6:46pm, aaaa wrote: That is the replaced game. You must mean 198607. |
| Yes, I meant 198607. Thanks for spotting this. on Dec 29th, 2011, 6:46pm, aaaa wrote: Next WHRE will include this change.
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