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supersamu
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ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« on: Feb 24th, 2013, 2:52pm » |
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In my opinion, we can work together and help improve many pages of the wiki! In advance I want to thank all Users that contributed high quality work to the wiki.
Nevertheless, there are still some areas where the Wiki ( http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Main_Page ) and the wikibook ( http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Arimaa ) can be improved.
But first let me write why everyone in our community can help making the Wiki a better, more informative place.
- What you can do:
First of all, you should create a wiki account. For that, you can send a message to froody containing your e-mail address or send a mail to Omar asking for a wiki account: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/contact/ .
Every insight about tactics or strategies are valuable. Just use your best judgment in making changes, adding and removing content, starting discussions when discussions are needed and thus make the wiki a better place.
If you are a relatively new member, just correct some grammatical mistakes and spelling errors in some of the game reports. If you are an older member, but you don´t feel like writing about Arimaa strategy in detail, just try your best with a game report of some games of past World championships.
It doesn´t matter if you start with an incomplete, poorly-written first draft of a topic, because that can evolve into a well-rounded, presentable report through the process of collaborative editing. Hence, the submission of rough drafts (but not too rough) is also encouraged. In general, if you think that you could add something of relevance, feel free to add it.
Don´t be afraid! Just write.
- Pages that need editing:
In my opinion, these pages of the wiki could use some editing:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Category:World_Championships
(In most of the earlier championships are no links to the specific games. I think links at least to the title games would be nice. Also some tables about who played whom are not existing, at least not on the pages about the first 4 Championships.)
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Beginner%27s_Guide_to_the_Arima a_gameroom
(I am already on it, but I can´t upload a picture)
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Why_we_love_Arimaa
(suggestion by froody)
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Bot_List
(suggestion by froody)
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/2013_World_Championship
(Writing game summaries is arguably the most important but also the most time-consuming thing that should be done on the wiki)
- Long-term-projects:
Personally, I think we can write a lot more about strategical and tactical stuff not only in the wikibook, but also in the wiki.
These are topics in the wiki, not in the wikibook that I think some pages about would be useful, but are not of immediate importance:
- camel hostages
- E+H-attacks
- elephant blockades
- EHH-Setups
- EMH-Setups
- etc.
(Note that some of these topics aren´t presented in the wikibook... yet  )
I know that there are some things written about most of these topics in the wikibook as well, but I think that a short summary on the subject in the wiki would be nice, maybe with a link to the respective section in the wikibook.
Feel free to comment on my post or comment on things that you think should be added to the wiki or wikibook, I will then add this as soon as I can.
I will update this first post regularly so that you can see what has already been done/has to be done without sifting through the (hopefully several) pages of replies.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #1 on: Feb 25th, 2013, 12:57am » |
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+1. Good post. I hope we get more people involved. Sometimes it's good to be patient, but I thought now was a good time to push.
Also I like your idea about using google drive docs (or whatever they call it) to edit match reports. (It allows multiple editors in real-time). Has the Arimaa community used this much? What do people think?
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #2 on: Feb 25th, 2013, 7:06pm » |
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Cool supersamu. 
I have one Appendix to write for the report I turned in today. Hopefully, I'll be able to put in some time in a couple of days.
Froody:
I've never used Google Drive Docs before, though I agree, it sounds like an interesting idea.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #3 on: Feb 27th, 2013, 3:21pm » |
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If you look at this page: http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/Special:RecentChanges , you can see that there were more than 50 Edits in the last 5 days!
Granted, most of them were minor ones like Layout improvements or continuity fixes and spelling errors fixed, but that´s a Start!
Two tables were added at the 2004 and the 2005 world championship page, but there is some Information that still needs to be added. It is unclear who finished on what place. There are probably some games missing of the 2004 WC and the 2005 WC. Some of the registered players didn´t play a single game, like 99of9 in 2004.
A senior member of the community is probably the right person to correct me or edit the page respectively.
here are the links to the wiki pages:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/2004_World_Championship
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/mwiki/index.php/2005_World_Championship
If I think of anything more, I will add this to my first Post in the Thread.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #4 on: Apr 6th, 2013, 5:07pm » |
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Hi all. I discovered Arimaa last month and I've been sloooowly working my way through the Wikibook, editing it and also teaching myself the strategy. (As I'm an inexperienced player, my edits tend to be either correcting grammar, clarifying what's already there, or improving the layout.)
I completely redesigned the layout of the Wikibook's glossary page. I'd appreciate any feedback. (The previous version had lots of boldface in it, and the new version uses Wiki markup so that each glossary entry can be linked to individually.)
For what it's worth, it will make my life easier if you would leave any comments related to the glossary on the Wikibook's talk page, not here. Thanks for letting me be a part of this great community!
Matthew
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #5 on: Apr 6th, 2013, 6:07pm » |
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supersamu: Thanks for encouraging people in this noble endeavor!
May I suggest:
1. I don't see any "to do list" on the Wiki itself. I think that would be a helpful addition.
2. There are no links to the Arimaa wiki from any of the other places where I would expect to see one. I just added links at the Wikipedia page and the Wikibook. Are there other links that should be added?
3. There seems to be a trend where information on the Wiki doesn't make it into the Wikibook, and information in the Wikibook doesn't make it into the Wikipedia page. They shouldn't be carbon copies of each other, but it's reasonable to ask that this be an explicit priority on your "to-do" list.
4. If a new user tries to log in to the Wiki, the error message doesn't give any indication of how to create a new account. Similarly, on the Wiki itself I think the "Create a new account" should be right at the top, in a place where it's a lot harder to overlook.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #6 on: May 8th, 2013, 2:40am » |
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Hi all. I think the "rules" section of the Wikipedia page is pretty hard to wade through so I decided to rewrite it from scratch. (One of the advantages of being unemployed....)
I uploaded my version at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_Arimaa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mattj2/sandbox/Arimaa_rules_simple
I'd appreciate your comments and feedback!
Also I created a new page called "Computer Arimaa" that's more focused on AI and computer stuff, while shifting the focus on the main Wikipedia Arimaa page away from AI and chess. So. Any help would be appreciated...
Matthew
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #7 on: May 8th, 2013, 8:09am » |
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Wow! That looks cool. The rule page looks neat and well thought out. I wish I had as much motivation as you do. I started the thread myself, but honestly I didn´t do anything really useful yet.
I am a bit ashamed of myself, actually. Let´s see how it goes when I have my next Semester break.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #8 on: May 8th, 2013, 11:02pm » |
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Thanks! Haha well I did say I was unemployed.
Don't worry, in a volunteer community like this everyone goes through phases of being more or less active. I hope when you have more time you'll spend some of it on the Wiki!
Matthew
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #9 on: May 13th, 2013, 1:41am » |
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Anyone have an .ogg file of someone saying the word "Arimaa" that is licensed such that I can add it to Wikipedia? (Wikipedia only accepts .ogg format for sound files.)
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #10 on: May 18th, 2013, 8:43am » |
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I just uploaded a file called arimaa.ogg here:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/sounds/
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #11 on: May 20th, 2013, 12:27am » |
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Thanks Omar!!
File's address on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:En-us-Arimaa.ogg
I updated the Wikipedia page. In the very beginning of the article, just before the cryptic pronunciation guide, there's a picture of a speaker that links to the sound file.
I made the sound file Creative Commons-Attribution.
I copy-pasted some legalese from a commercially-licensed Arimaa site which says that the Creative Commons license applies only to the file itself but not to the Arimaa game. My made-up license text is here. I hope I did it right!
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #12 on: May 21st, 2013, 2:50am » |
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on May 13th, 2013, 1:41am, mattj256 wrote:| Anyone have an .ogg file of someone saying the word "Arimaa" that is licensed such that I can add it to Wikipedia? (Wikipedia only accepts .ogg format for sound files.) |
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May I ask why it must be licensed? Is it a Wikipedia policy? I don't see anything about it on the site.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #13 on: May 22nd, 2013, 1:50am » |
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on May 21st, 2013, 2:50am, browni3141 wrote:| May I ask why it must be licensed? Is it a Wikipedia policy? I don't see anything about it on the site. |
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When you try to upload an image or a sound file they make their licensing really obvious but for the most part they hide it in the fine print where it's easy to miss. Apparently their content is dual-licensed with GFDL and "Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike."
For more information: Reusing Wikipedia content.
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Re: ArimaaWiki and the WikiBook - Help appreciated
« Reply #14 on: May 31st, 2013, 12:07am » |
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Hi all. I've been working on my crusade project to write the Arimaa rules on Wikipedia in a way that is really simple and intuitive.
Omar pointed me to the football version of the rules, so I copied the words verbatim, fixed up the formatting and layout, and added some diagrams. I'm not attached to the language; I just want it to be easy to understand and easy to skim.
Here's my current draft:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mattj2/sandbox/Arimaa_rules_football
Thoughts?
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