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Little Puzzle
« on: Aug 24th, 2005, 10:10pm »
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Gold to play and win
 
1w Rd1 Rh1 Ca3 Rd3 Cd5 Ea6 Rc7  
1b cf3 rg3 mh3 rc5 ce5 hc6 ee7 ra8 rb8 rc8 re8 rf8  
 
Use this link to view:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/planGame.cgi
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #1 on: Aug 24th, 2005, 11:01pm »
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This one would have been hard for a static goal search to find!
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #2 on: Aug 24th, 2005, 11:04pm »
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Rot13:
Pq5a ep5r up6k Ep7r Eq7a
 
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #3 on: Aug 24th, 2005, 11:58pm »
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Agreed ... static goal search would be in trouble here Smiley
 
Nice encryption ...
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #4 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 7:35am »
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Yes, I'm sure the puzzle would be rated at easy and is targeted more at us newb players. As well apparently as a sort of "anti-bot" example.
 
It did take me about 3-5 minutes to solve it. With my experience level being 20 some actual games of Arimaa spread out over a couple of years.
 
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #5 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 8:19am »
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I liked it.  Goal search would need to identify the goal path, recognize that there are two obstacles, and determine if there is a two-step move that addresses both.
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #6 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 8:53am »
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This position looks more like something taken from a real game than something composed.  JDB, is the soure of the position a live game?
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #7 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 9:55am »
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The position came up in testing the goal detection. I cleaned it up a bit to make it look a little more natural.
 
Little Puzzle 2:
 
What is the maximum distance a piece can be from the goal square and still be involved in a four step goal?  Huh
 
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #8 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 1:06pm »
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5?  This is an opposing piece freezing a rabbit that is 4 spaces away and otherwise has a clear run.
 
But I get the feeling I'm misunderstanding the question.
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #9 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 6:06pm »
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It should be 7.
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #10 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 6:12pm »
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1w Ra7 Ra5 Ra3 Ca1
1b eb7 mb5 hb3 rb8
 
The gold cat is 7 spaces from the goal and still involved with the four step goal sequence.
 
Is this what you were looking for?
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #11 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 6:37pm »
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cool Smiley
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #12 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 7:30pm »
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So the speed of information flow is about double the speed of material transport.
 
If you've discovered stuff like this in testing, your goal search sounds like it will be almost infallible.
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #13 on: Aug 26th, 2005, 8:31am »
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1w Rd7 Rd5 Rd3 Cd1 Dc1
1b ee7 me5 he3 re8 he1  
 
Depending on the definition of involved, the Dog is 8 steps away.
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Re: Little Puzzle
« Reply #14 on: Sep 2nd, 2005, 3:01pm »
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Here is one I couldn't figure out:
 
1w Rd1 Rh1 Rg2 Mg3 Rd4 Rc5 Md5 Db6 Rc6 He6 Rd7 Dc8  
1b ee5 mb5 dh5 dd6 ca7 hb7 rc7 re7 rg7 ra8 rb8 re8 rf8 hg8 rh8  
 
Gold to Play
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