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Re: Move 14
« Reply #30 on: Oct 4th, 2007, 4:30pm »
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on Oct 4th, 2007, 3:05pm, RonWeasley wrote:
After all, I'm the moderator and you're TheMob.

I'm sure you will make the wrong decision in determining the schedule, but I'll support that decision all the way. Tongue  (Seriously, you are doing a great job...)
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Re: Move 14
« Reply #31 on: Oct 4th, 2007, 9:22pm »
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OK, I spent some time on it, and I couldn't refute 99of9's refutation.  Chessandgo's rabbit pull is quite annoying in some lines.

14b ec4e Hc3n md5w ha6s
.    15w Hg3n Hg4n Hg5n Ee5w
.    .    15b ha5e mc5n Hc4n dd8s
.    .    .    16w Hc5s Ed5w Hg6s rg7s
.    .    .    .    16b ed4e ee4e ef4e mc6e
.    .    .    .    .    17w Hg5w Hf5w He5s He4s
.    .    .    .    .    .    17b eg4w ef4w ee4w He3n (unclear)
.    .    .    .    .    .    17b eg4w ef4w He3w ee4s
.    .    .    .    .    .    .    18w Ec5e md6e Ed5n Hc4n
.    .    .    .    .    .    .    .    18b hb5n rb8s df7s df6s (unclear)
.    .    .    .    16b ed4s Hc4e Hd4n ed3n
.    .    .    .    .    17w Hd5e He5e Hf5s Hf4s
.    .    .    .    .    .    17b ed4e ee4e ef4e mc6e
.    .    .    .    .    .    .    18w Ec5e Ed5e Ee5n Hf3w (+=)
.    .    15b ha5e ce7s dd8s dd7s
.    .    .    16w mc5n Ed5w Hg6s rg7s (+=)
.    .    15b ha5e mc5n dd8s ce7s
.    .    .    16w Hg6s rg7s Ed5w Hc4w (+=)

Therefore, like mdk, I have reverted to 14b ec4e Hc3n md5w hh6w as my top move.  I'll go vote now, but if the voting is extended again, I will happily change my mind again.  Smiley
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Re: Move 14
« Reply #32 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 3:57pm »
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Not surprizingly, TheMob chooses 14b ec4e Hc3n md5w hh6w.  This time we had some genuine Mob panic!
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Re: Move 14
« Reply #33 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 5:33pm »
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For the record
    .    .    .    .    .    .    .    .    .   1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8.
1. ec4e Hc3n hh6w md5w (pull H, h->g6, m->c5)    -  6  8  8  8  7  7  8
2. ec4e Hc3n hh6w md5n (pull H, h->g6, m back)   3  -  4  4  4  6  5  6
3. ec4e Hc3n md5w ha6s (pull H, m->c5, h up).    1  3  -  3  3  4  6  5
4. ec4e Hc3n md5n ha6s (pull H, m back, h up)    1  2  4  -  1  3  4  3
5. ec4e Hc3n md5n ha6e (pull H, m back, h->b6)   1  2  4  4  -  3  4  4
6. ec4e Hc3n hh6w Rh5n (pull H, pull R).    .    2  1  3  4  4  -  3  4
7. ec4e Hc3n md5w ha6e (pull H, m->c5, h->b6)    2  2  1  3  3  4  -  5
8. ec4e md5n hh6w Rh5n (pull R, e->d4, m back)   1  1  2  2  2  3  2  -

on Oct 5th, 2007, 3:57pm, RonWeasley wrote:
This time we had some genuine Mob panic!

Mob panic indeed.  I don't think we have ever had a move with such confusion in the middle ranks. By the Condorcet criterion, there was a four-way tie for the middle four preferences.  The mass tie included the move which was winning the suspended election after ten votes, and in that suspended election the eventual winner was only in third place.
 
There are no zeros in the preference matrix: for no pair of moves was the preference unanimous.  It is fitting that I can't even remember my ballot, except that it agreed with the final results as to the top move and bottom move.
 
I hope our position is not worse for the wear.  Does it still look like we have an advantage?
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Re: Move 14
« Reply #34 on: Nov 28th, 2007, 10:00pm »
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In retrospect, how did we not even consider 14b dd8s dd7s md5w hh6w?
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