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Re: Move 37
« Reply #15 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 1:17am »
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37b ef2n Df4n ef3n dc4n (F) - this is so far my favorite move (just because this is quite transparent move).
 
I like my suggestion and others too but these are far too complicated for me to judge them at least approximately correctly (at least now with given variations and explanations).
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #16 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 8:45am »
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Of all the moves proposed, I still prefer 37b ef2n Df4n ef3n dc4n as well.  It appears to be the least risky and potentially the strongest move anyways.
 
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #17 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 12:38pm »
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Seems like we could voice vote this one.  Speak up of you object.  I think if anybody requests a Condorcet vote we should do that.
 
37s ef2n Df4n ef3n dc4n
 
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I will edit this list as others post agreement.  If we get 8, I will make the move.  Currently we have 8.
 
[Edit}Because Fritzlein wanted to waffle a bit, I will wait a few hours for him to dissent.  Given that he doesn't I will make the move without further warning.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #18 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 1:17pm »
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Hmmm, move me to undecided at present.  I know our reserve has dwindled over the past several moves, and I don't want to stand in the way of moving soon if everyone else agrees, but I just haven't looked at it enough this week to have a good opinion yet.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #19 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 5:23pm »
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on Aug 12th, 2008, 1:17pm, Fritzlein wrote:
Hmmm, move me to undecided at present.  I know our reserve has dwindled over the past several moves, and I don't want to stand in the way of moving soon if everyone else agrees, but I just haven't looked at it enough this week to have a good opinion yet.

I am also not ready to vote yet.
 
After
37b ef2n Df4n ef3n dc4n
.    38w Eb3e hb2n Ec3n hb3e hc3x
.    .    38b Df5n Df6x ef4n ef5s dc5n
.    .    .    39w Hf1n Hf2n dg3s Hf3e (W)
the position looks pretty even to me: he has an extra horse, we have extra dcr, and not much is happening. What's our plan for victory?
 
On the other hand, after 37b dg3w Re3n df3w de3w (AM), we seem to be up a cat. Can someone give an example of a line starting with AM's 37b where we do badly?
 
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #20 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 6:37pm »
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on Aug 12th, 2008, 5:23pm, warren wrote:

I am also not ready to vote yet.
 
After
37b ef2n Df4n ef3n dc4n
.    38w Eb3e hb2n Ec3n hb3e hc3x
.    .    38b Df5n Df6x ef4n ef5s dc5n
.    .    .    39w Hf1n Hf2n dg3s Hf3e (W)
the position looks pretty even to me: he has an extra horse, we have extra dcr, and not much is happening. What's our plan for victory?
 
On the other hand, after 37b dg3w Re3n df3w de3w (AM), we seem to be up a cat. Can someone give an example of a line starting with AM's 37b where we do badly?
 

Looking at some more lines, I think I can answer my own question about what the risk is with AM's 37b. While that moves leaves us up a cat materially, the horse hostage continues to haunt us. If gold attacks in the east with rabbits and dog, I can only make it work for us if our elephant guards the c3 trap while our dogs go north to counter gold's attack. If too many of his pieces go on the attack our rabbits can threaten goal too, so it's unclear whether or not his attack would succeed. But as others have said, it's an unclear position.
 
I therefore currently support the voice vote for Fritz's move.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #21 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 5:48am »
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I vote for Fritz's move, mainly because I haven't seen anything else better Smiley.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #22 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 6:47am »
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OK, let's make that move and gain some time.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #23 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 8:52am »
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That's acceptable with me. I would find it interesting to see us play with this material difference should it transpire.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #24 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 11:49am »
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I'd go with Fritzlein's proposal too.
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #25 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 3:24pm »
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on Aug 12th, 2008, 12:38pm, RonWeasley wrote:

I will edit this list as others post agreement.  If we get 8, I will make the move.  Currently we have 8.
 
[Edit}Because Fritzlein wanted to waffle a bit, I will wait a few hours for him to dissent.  Given that he doesn't I will make the move without further warning.

Don't slow the team down just because I can't make up my mind.  Smiley  I just tried to have too many recreations at the same time recently...
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Re: Move 37
« Reply #26 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 5:20pm »
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on Aug 13th, 2008, 3:24pm, Fritzlein wrote:

Don't slow the team down just because I can't make up my mind.  Smiley  I just tried to have too many recreations at the same time recently...

 
In that case, the move is agreed.
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