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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #15 on: Nov 26th, 2015, 2:28am »
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My main concern with putting the elephant on f4 really is that silver will be able to get a strong rabbit to h3 or h2 and rotate the camel west.  Pushing the camel to g4 does slow this for a turn, and I would expect silver to play a move like 10s Me5 g5 or 10s Mf5 g4 in response.  I also do like Mb5 as the 4th step much more than Dd3 now, as flipping the horse out is not that useful for silver if the elephant has to subsequently come back to defend c6.

 
I see what you mean.
10g:  Eg5w Ef5s mf4e Dd2n
10s: mg4n mg5s Rh5w rh6s
 
Also means silver would be able to lauch a strong attack. We may be able to stabilise the situation. especially if we can keep our horse in the east, but the g5 rabbit would probably be lost without compensation.
 
Maybe we need to push the silver cameal west instead of east?
10g: Eg5w mf4w Ef5s Mb4n also prevents the horse flip whilst slowing down any attack in the east.
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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #16 on: Nov 28th, 2015, 4:01am »
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on Nov 26th, 2015, 2:28am, Hufflepup wrote:

 
I see what you mean.
10g:  Eg5w Ef5s mf4e Dd2n
10s: mg4n mg5s Rh5w rh6s
 
Also means silver would be able to lauch a strong attack. We may be able to stabilise the situation. especially if we can keep our horse in the east, but the g5 rabbit would probably be lost without compensation.
 
Maybe we need to push the silver cameal west instead of east?
10g: Eg5w mf4w Ef5s Mb4n also prevents the horse flip whilst slowing down any attack in the east.

 
I don't think that's a concern. We have to like our position after this?
 
10g Eg5w mf4e Ef5s Dd2n
10s mg4n mg5s Rh5w rh6s
11g mg4e Ef4e Hf3n Mb4n
 
I'm not totally against the other 10g suggestion either.
 
10g Eg5s Eg4n hg3n Hf3e
10s mf4s Hg3e mf3e de6s
11g Eg5w Ef5s Mb4n Dd2n
 
We'd need to evaluate how the race works out.
 
Also, after
10g Eg5w mf4e Ef5s Mb4n
10s ee3n Hf3w He3w ee4s
11g Mb5e hb6s hb5s Mc5w
 
I also really like our position. This 10s can not be played.
 
11s mg4n mg5s Rh5w rh6s
12g hb4s Mb5s mg4e Ef4e for example.
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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #17 on: Nov 28th, 2015, 2:57pm »
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IMPORTANT:
Tomorrow morning (in 12h) the poll will start. If you want to add any move, be quick.
Moves:
10g Eg5w mf4e Ef5s Dd2n
10g Eg4 Mb5 ce1 (probably meaning Eg5s Mb4n Rc1e Rd1e)
10g E:Hg4 Hg3 (Eg5s Eg4n hg3n Hf3e)
10g Eg5w mf4w Ef5s Mb4n
10g Eg5w mf4e Ef5s Mb4n
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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #18 on: Nov 28th, 2015, 7:43pm »
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I don't see any that I'm thinking of missing from the move list, deep.
 
I'm leaning towards the Ef4 mg4 Mb5 move; I hope we can handle any complications that follow.  I'm not afraid of a horse flip and it seems like a waste of time for silver.  I'm also not afraid of the camel crossing to the west, but I think if it is going to, we should make it take the longer set of steps to do so, i.e. push it east.
 
I also think we can handle the h6 rabbit advance possibility by taking a move to shift pieces east, i.e. g2->h2, C->g2, H->f2; we still have plenty of congestion there.  Pushing the camel east if it remains on g4 is also a possibility.  However, I also see 10s Mf5:r h5 as a possible response to account for.
 
What does worry me is the possibility of an elephant blockade - which means the elephant cannot remain on the g file this turn.  We don't want to be forced to move the elephant to a square where it can't attack or defend next move just to avoid a full blockade the move after that.
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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #19 on: Nov 30th, 2015, 1:43am »
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on Nov 28th, 2015, 4:01am, browni3141 wrote:

 
I'm not totally against the other 10g suggestion either.
 
10g Eg5s Eg4n hg3n Hf3e
10s mf4s Hg3e mf3e de6s
11g Eg5w Ef5s Mb4n Dd2n
 
We'd need to evaluate how the race works out.

 
What happens after the following?
 
11s. rg6s mg3w hg4s rg5s
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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #20 on: Nov 30th, 2015, 5:54pm »
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Sorry, to the whole Mob, I messed up SMs notation of top two moves. In future I will only use standard notation. I hope I just didn't brake the poll.
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Re: 2015 Move 10g
« Reply #21 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 6:43pm »
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on Nov 30th, 2015, 1:43am, Lion wrote:

 
What happens after the following?
 
11s. rg6s mg3w hg4s rg5s

 
10g Eg5s Eg4n hg3n Hf3e
10s mf4s Hg3e mf3e de6s
11g Eg5w Ef5s Mb4n Dd2n
11s rg6s mg3w hg4s rg5s
 
I would probably flip the horse. Silver can try to rotate the elephant out but our h6 horse is a strong asset. It's not an easy position.
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