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Fritzlein
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #90 on: Jul 27th, 2011, 11:54am » |
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on Jul 27th, 2011, 11:04am, Hippo wrote:Nombril with perfect record 6:0 (so far) skipped the only bot which gained a lot of points from quantity.
Will anybody remain undefeated this year? Last year there were 3 such players (if I remember it well). |
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Last year there were four(!) undefeated players, but only two with many games: Nombril and I. This year we play each other, so one of us must lose, but Nombril and chessandgo don't play, so they could still both be undefeated. To prevent that calamity, I just need to beat them both. 
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #91 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 2:50pm » |
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I move faster when I feel I'm ahead...... I expect to loose half of my remaining games. Plus I have had far too little time for Arimaa this summer, so I think I'm getting rusty already. I didn't get to take people by surprise this year like I did last year. 
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Hippo
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #92 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 3:07pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 2:50pm, Nombril wrote:| I move faster when I feel I'm ahead... |
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Exactly that cost me a game. It's big difference to be materially/positionally ahead.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #93 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 3:34pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 2:50pm, Nombril wrote:| I move faster when I feel I'm ahead...... |
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I move faster when I'm far ahead or far behind. It's the close ones that slow me down. Our game is one of three nailbiters keeping me busy, along with my games against mistre and chessandgo.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #94 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 4:44pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 3:34pm, Fritzlein wrote:
I move faster when I'm far ahead or far behind. It's the close ones that slow me down. Our game is one of three nailbiters keeping me busy, along with my games against mistre and chessandgo. |
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Fritz's game with me is more like a manicure. I'm hoping to come up with a metaphorical piece of hot flint for him. (mutters inaudibly)
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #95 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 7:00pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 3:34pm, Fritzlein wrote:
I move faster when I'm far ahead or far behind. It's the close ones that slow me down. Our game is one of three nailbiters keeping me busy, along with my games against mistre and chessandgo. |
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Lies, that hasn't happened.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #96 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 11:08pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 7:00pm, Eltripas wrote:| Lies, that hasn't happened. |
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Hehe, three times so far. I was undefeated in 2005, 2008, and 2010, but 99of9 beat me in 2006, and chessandgo in 2007 and 2009. Both of them described the games as being tense long after I had inwardly resigned and started making quick, intuitive moves rather than analyzing deeply. Maybe I had chances to put up more of a fight and come back if I had continued to play as hard as I do in games that are nearly equal, but such is my psychology. I'm easily demoralized.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #97 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 11:16pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 4:44pm, RonWeasley wrote:| Fritz's game with me is more like a manicure. I'm hoping to come up with a metaphorical piece of hot flint for him. (mutters inaudibly) |
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I have sped up a little in our game, despite getting the hot flint when I got overconfident against you in 2008 and blundered away my sure win, twice. Obviously playing hard on every move of every game, no matter the situation, is going to get the best results, but I'm only human. 
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #98 on: Jul 29th, 2011, 12:11pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2011, 3:34pm, Fritzlein wrote:
I move faster when I'm far ahead or far behind. It's the close ones that slow me down. Our game is one of three nailbiters keeping me busy, along with my games against mistre and chessandgo. |
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I was all set to move in our game and then at the very last second I saw a move that was better than any of the other moves I researched over a period of an hour. I was starting to regret my decision for not taking D-R for H, but I might still be ok...
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #99 on: Jul 29th, 2011, 2:40pm » |
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on Jul 29th, 2011, 12:11pm, mistre wrote:| I was all set to move in our game and then at the very last second I saw a move that was better than any of the other moves I researched over a period of an hour. I was starting to regret my decision for not taking D-R for H, but I might still be ok... |
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Interesting. This last-second move you found (23s) was the one I had expected all along, so I guess I wish you had stopped thinking about it after only half an hour. On the other hand, before your previous three moves (20s, 21s, 22s) I had thought for an hour or so each time without even considering the move you actually made. The moves you made that I hadn't expected seemed plenty strong on examination, which made me wonder what was wrong with me for not seeing them in all my analysis. Arimaa is a game to make one humble.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #100 on: Jul 29th, 2011, 8:41pm » |
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23s? ... I only see 21s here:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/tourn/postal/2011/showGames.cgi
... oh but the little red number is saying it's Fritz's 24 move ... I'm assuming there's a two move lag right? (I haven't checked the rules for the postal mixer - I've just learned about Lazy Evaluation in bot development and I think it's having some sort of effect on me).
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #101 on: Jul 29th, 2011, 10:46pm » |
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on Jul 29th, 2011, 8:41pm, Swynndla wrote:
Yeah, I noticed that too. Is there a two move lag to prevent cheating (through player collaboration)? The last postal mixer that I took part in did not have a lag...
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #102 on: Jul 30th, 2011, 3:47pm » |
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on Jul 29th, 2011, 10:46pm, mistre wrote:| Is there a two move lag to prevent cheating (through player collaboration)? |
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Yes, and to remove the temptation to discuss ongoing positions in ways that aren't intended to cheat, but which have the effect of helping one player.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #103 on: Jul 30th, 2011, 7:30pm » |
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on Jul 18th, 2011, 1:05am, Hippo wrote:| I don't think 15:3 is doable, at least 3 games look really grim for the bot, but as I have said it's very good at the ending ... . |
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Seems to me the clearly lost games are over now, currently at 9:5. The remaining four all have excitement left!
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #104 on: Jul 31st, 2011, 2:30am » |
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on Jul 30th, 2011, 7:30pm, rbarreira wrote:
Seems to me the clearly lost games are over now, currently at 9:5. The remaining four all have excitement left! |
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Yes, congrats anyway. ... and now the bot has plenty of time for relaxing...
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