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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #15 on: Jun 1st, 2011, 2:56am »
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Very cool.
 
(PS: How are you making this so that it can be used in the client? I have an abstract concept of my own I'd like to try, see...)
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 1st, 2011, 12:30pm »
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Just a few constructive comments (I hope):

  • Does the dog's tongue have to be so long?  Does it need a tongue at all?
  • Shouldn't the rabbits, cats, and dogs have eyes if the other pieces do?  
  • I am not a big fan of the design of the rabbits - it doesn't really convey to me what the piece is.  

Aside from that, this is looking really good.  Congrats!
 
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #17 on: Jun 1st, 2011, 2:42pm »
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on Jun 1st, 2011, 12:30pm, mistre wrote:

  • Does the dog's tongue have to be so long?  Does it need a tongue at all?
  • Shouldn't the rabbits, cats, and dogs have eyes if the other pieces do?  
  • I am not a big fan of the design of the rabbits - it doesn't really convey to me what the piece is.

I'm not persuaded by the dog tongue either; too snake-like, and perhaps not even so distinctive since the cat has whiskers sticking out in the same sort of way.  Without a tongue, the dog would still be the only animal with an open mouth, appropriately since dogs are often panting.  I like the general principle of less detail as the animals get weaker.  I don't miss the eyes on the rabbits.  I suppose one could have a three-blob rabbit that is just a head and two ears that is still quite distinctive and even simpler, and therefore better according to the design principles, but the current rabbit works for me.
 
My two tiny suggestions would be to make the camel just a smidge smaller relative to the elephant, and to make the horse's mane slanted parallel to the neck rather than triangular.  But it's hard to know if it would make things better without seeing the changes; my imagination fails me in such situations.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #18 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 3:28am »
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@megajester - I don't have access to the client source code, so I can't integrate it. The screenshots you see are just me pasting over a screenshot of the board used by the client, just to give people an idea of how the pieces look "in real life"
 
@mistre + @Fritzlein - I agree with the dog comments, removed the redundant tongue.
 
@mistre - Unfortunately, I can't imagine how else to make the rabbits while retaining a profile view: either an isographic view (like the default pieces) doesn't lend itself well to flat pieces, or facing the rabbit head on breaks the procession (too much in my opinion).
 
@Fritzlein - I do agree with the camel comment, too, and lowered the hump a bit. I'm not sure how to make the horse's mane parallel to the neck without requiring lots of small scrunched up details, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to take a pass on attempting that.
 
And now, another update:
 

 

 
As always, comments welcome, I'll update the page with updated svgs/images tomorrow.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #19 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 4:41am »
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Hmm, EMH have eyes while DCR don't have them. Forr rabbits a single dot would be enough for cats and dogs adding something more is welcome.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #20 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 12:07pm »
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on Jun 6th, 2011, 3:28am, thenoviceoof wrote:
As always, comments welcome, I'll update the page with updated svgs/images tomorrow.

Much improved.  Seriously, if I were doing a second edition of my book, I would use these pieces instead, if you would permit me to.
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 6th, 2011, 12:21pm »
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Thanks for the update!  I like the camel's lowered hump. It still bothers me that the cats and dogs don't have eyes. The rabbits are fine as is.
 
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 3:04am »
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Due to popular demand (and imagining a kid crying because the animals had no eyes), I added eyes to Dogs, Cats, and Rabbits. Cats look a tad strange, but I think many more details would push it towards Huge Anime Eye territory, and we can't have that happening.
 

 

 
@Fritzlein - there's a reason I licensed these under CC-BY. By all means, use them! (Here's a refresher on what CC-BY means if you need it)
 
As always, comments welcome, and I'll try updating everything now.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #23 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 3:40am »
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I like the latest version much better. My main suggestion is to make the rabbits fatter by doubling the visible body area, put the ears a bit thicker near head, and decrease tail size maybe 10%. A google image search hints that easily recognizable rabbits(for me at least) have the body area showing 4 to 6 times the area of the head(without ears).
 
So yeah: fatter rabbits. Things are looking good.
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 4:08am »
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Nihil obstat. Imptimatur.  Cheesy
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on Jun 7th, 2011, 3:40am, Nazgand wrote:
I like the latest version much better. My main suggestion is to make the rabbits fatter by doubling the visible body area, put the ears a bit thicker near head, and decrease tail size maybe 10%. A google image search hints that easily recognizable rabbits(for me at least) have the body area showing 4 to 6 times the area of the head(without ears).
 
So yeah: fatter rabbits. Things are looking good.

 
Well put!  I will second this suggestion.
 
As for the eyes, maybe a small dot under the line for the cats would improve it and make it look like they are not sleeping... Wink
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #27 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 8:03am »
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The dogs are so adorable now that I'll feel terrible trapping one.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #28 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 10:57pm »
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on Jun 7th, 2011, 8:03am, jsiehler wrote:
The dogs are so adorable now that I'll feel terrible trapping one.

When I play with you, I'll demand to use this set, and then threaten both your dog  Shocked and your camel Cheesy Which will you choose? Tongue
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #29 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 11:28pm »
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I liked the dogs with tongue  Undecided
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