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Hippo based bots discussion & chat
« on: Apr 8th, 2013, 10:45am »
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A chat for people working on a hippo base bot.
 
That's what I am doing. I've spent quite a lot of time understanding the code. Many things are still unclear to me but I think I know enough to start modifying the evaluate function to improve how the bot plays.
 
Base hippo code is here:
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/download/bot_Hippo/bot_Hippo.zip
 
It's written in java.
 
Comments, ideas, etc. are welcomed !
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Re: Hippo based bots discussion & chat
« Reply #1 on: Apr 8th, 2013, 12:43pm »
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The src with do/undo is public now on http://hrosi.dyndns.org/arimaa/bot_Hippo130408.zip.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 8th, 2013, 1:44pm »
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Hello Hippo,
 
seems that you have changed quite a lot of things !  Shocked
 
You are working on a genetic algorithm ? Interesting.
 
I will stick on the good old version for now. Wink I wanna work on the evaluation function.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 8th, 2013, 4:49pm »
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on Apr 8th, 2013, 1:44pm, Ikki wrote:
Hello Hippo,
 
seems that you have changed quite a lot of things !  Shocked
 
You are working on a genetic algorithm ? Interesting.
 
I will stick on the good old version for now. Wink I wanna work on the evaluation function.

 
The learning was there in previous version allready. Unfortunately it somehow diverged so I have stopped the developping till other features are added.
And I hope the work of my student on mobility could be used for it in foreseeable future.
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Re: Hippo based bots discussion & chat
« Reply #4 on: Apr 19th, 2013, 9:14pm »
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Hi, I've a little problem. I'm working on the evaluation function (evaluate2 class). I think I understand the way the mapping is done for the pieces on the board:
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[7][2]
 
This bitboard represent que whole pieces position on the board:
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[1][] is for gold
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][] si for silver.
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][5] represent the stronger piece (elephant) if I am correct.
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[][1] represent the weakest, the rabbit.
 
Am I correct until now ?
 
Ok.
 
Then at the beginning of the evaluation function, there are a bunch of variable that I do not understand and are derived from the previous:
 
long gold_bb = gs.stronger_or_eq_bb[0][0];
 
 
long gold_nr_bb = gs.stronger_or_eq_bb[0][1];
 
 
long gold_r_bb = gold_bb ^ gold_nr_bb;
 
What does they stand for ?
 
Thanks. Wink
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Re: Hippo based bots discussion & chat
« Reply #5 on: Apr 22nd, 2013, 2:45pm »
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on Apr 19th, 2013, 9:14pm, Ikki wrote:
Hi, I've a little problem. I'm working on the evaluation function (evaluate2 class). I think I understand the way the mapping is done for the pieces on the board:
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[7][2]
 
This bitboard represent que whole pieces position on the board:
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[1][] is for gold
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][] si for silver.
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][5] represent the stronger piece (elephant) if I am correct.
 
stronger_or_eq_bb[][1] represent the weakest, the rabbit.
 
Am I correct until now ?
 
Ok.
 
Then at the beginning of the evaluation function, there are a bunch of variable that I do not understand and are derived from the previous:
 
long gold_bb = gs.stronger_or_eq_bb[0][0];
 
 
long gold_nr_bb = gs.stronger_or_eq_bb[0][1];
 
 
long gold_r_bb = gold_bb ^ gold_nr_bb;
 
What does they stand for ?
 
Thanks. Wink

 
supppose all pieces are present ...
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][0] are all gold pieces (RCDHME)
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][1] are all gold nonrabbit pieces (CDHME)
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][2] are gold pieces DHME
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][3] are gold pieces HME
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][4] are gold pieces ME
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][5] are gold pieces E
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][6] is zero
 
if just camels are traded
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][4] are gold pieces E
stronger_or_eq_bb[0][5] is zero
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Re: Hippo based bots discussion & chat
« Reply #6 on: Apr 25th, 2013, 7:08pm »
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Thanks for your help Hippo !
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