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Re: Move 16
« Reply #45 on: Nov 7th, 2007, 11:23am »
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The random selection has chosen Md3s ed4s ha5e dd8s.  I didn't have a coin so I flipped a candy bar from Halloween.  Then I ate it.  Chaos rules TheMob!!
 
This is the same move that placed first in the preference matrix.  If you go the voting site for this election, under the box is a note recommending breaking the tie with a random process.  The better placement of this move indicates that it ranked better among those who didn't rank it over the other move.  Interpreting this could be tricky because in some cases it can depend on strong feelings about moves other than these top two.  If we did a run-off to remove the effects of the losing moves, these results predict we'd get another tie, and we'd just end up losing more time.
 
I feel fortunate that this move got selected so we can debate the process without those favoring the preference matrix feeling the wrong choice got made.
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Re: Move 16
« Reply #46 on: Nov 7th, 2007, 10:05pm »
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Furthermore, we gained three and a half hours of reserve.  This position is reasonably complex now, but it could get even more complex in the near future.  It's good to spend only an average amount of time on average positions, so that we can later opt to spend more than average time if we enter wild complications.
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Re: Move 16
« Reply #47 on: Mar 11th, 2010, 3:24am »
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Hi all,
 
I'm currently analysing the 2007 Mob game for my book, so I might be digging up some old threads.
 
on Nov 6th, 2007, 3:00pm, mdk wrote:

16b Md3s ed4s ha5e dd8s
. 17w Ed5n mc5e md5e Ed6s
. . 17b hb5s Dc4n hb4e dd7s
. . . 18w me5s Ed5e me4s Ede5s
. . . . 18b De2s me3s ed3e dd6s
. . . . . 19w rb3w Hb2n Ee4w Rg1n

 
This line might have been my best chance actually, as a horse frame on c3 is forced. I'm not sure whether silver can do enough mayhem with his camel on the east meanwhile, like 19s ee3w Cf2n x 20g Rh1n Rf1e De1e Rb1n and gold will frame on c3 next move. What do you think, would silver have had to withdraw the camel on 17s (which would have been a huge relief for me obviously)?
 
oh and btw I also like the other 16s move that you tied for first place.
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Re: Move 16
« Reply #48 on: Mar 11th, 2010, 3:57am »
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Oh, reading the move 17 thread, arimaa_master has:
 
17w Ed5e mc5e Ee5n md5e
17b hb5s rb3w hb4s Dc4w
18w me5s Ee6s me4s Ee5s
 
As far as I can remember this was rather the line that I feared, I guess that  
 
18b De2s me3s De1w me2n is very good for silver.
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