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Re: Move 21
« Reply #45 on: Jan 23rd, 2008, 6:31pm »
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Right now it is a tossup for me between 21b hg6e hh6w Rh5n rh8s, which can lead to wild lines with apparently equal chances, and 21b Dc4w mc3n ha5s dd7s, which leads to tame lines which are unclear.  One thing is for sure, though: I no longer think we are winning.  Rather I think I have no clue what is happening.  Tongue
 
The team can take as long it likes to pick apart my analysis, but I'm ready to vote.  Don't wait on any more analysis from me; I don't know when it would be forthcoming if you did.
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Re: Move 21
« Reply #46 on: Jan 23rd, 2008, 10:37pm »
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Thanks for all the analysis Fritz. I don't have time to look at it all now but I'll try and get a chance sometime tomorrow. I hope other people will do the same. As for voting at this point I'm not really sure whether there is any point in waiting much longer. It seems pretty clear to me that whatever move we play we won't be too sure of what is actually going on Tongue
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Re: Move 21
« Reply #47 on: Jan 24th, 2008, 2:47pm »
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Thanks, mdk.  It was fun to have an Arimaa day.  I haven't done any more analysis, but after letting yesterday percolate I have a pretty clear preference for the rabbit pull.  Like you said earlier, we should embrace wild lines rather than shunning them, since a group of people should be less likely than an individual to suffer from tactical blindness.  Plus, even if we emerge from this mess with equality, we should be happy.
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Re: Move 21
« Reply #48 on: Jan 24th, 2008, 7:14pm »
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yes after looking through all the analysis i'm liking the rabbit pull most too at the moment. i'm glad i actually had time for the first time in a while to significantly contribute. I finished my midterms today so I should be able to contribute pretty regularly now
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Re: Move 21
« Reply #49 on: Jan 25th, 2008, 3:43pm »
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All who voted were swayed by the rabbit pull arguments.  But only 8 voted, which may mean those unsure decided not to vote.  I'll admit, this was one of the harder choices we've made.  Remember, it's OK to vote more than one move in the number one slot if you really don't think you can choose only one.
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Re: Move 21
« Reply #50 on: Jan 25th, 2008, 6:23pm »
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For the record:

    .    .    .    .    .    .    .    .    .    .   1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8.
1. hg6e hh6w Rh5n rh8s (pull R, r->h7) .    .    .    -  8  6  6  7  8  8  7
2. Dc4w mc3n ha5s dd7s (push D with m, h->a4, d->d6)  0  -  4  3  4  6  6  6
3. ed3n Dc4w ed4w ha5s (push D with e, h->a4)    .    2  3  -  5  6  6  6  7
4. ha5s ha4e hb4w Dc4w (pull D with h) .    .    .    2  4  2  -  4  7  7  6
5. ha5s ha4e Dc4e hb4e (push D with h) .    .    .    1  3  1  2  -  6  6  6
6. dd7s ha5s ha4e ce7w (d->d6, h->b4, c->d7).    .    0  1  1  0  1  -  3  4
7. dd7s ha5s ha4e hg6e (d->d6, h->b4, h->h6).    .    0  1  1  0  1  2  -  4
8. ed3n Dd2n Cc2n mc3s (pull D, push C).    .    .    1  1  0  1  1  1  1  -

 
At least two voters didn't have the rabbit pull first!  It makes me happy that people vote against my recommended move.  That way I don't have to conceal my true opinion.
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