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browni3141
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #30 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 1:32pm » |
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on Oct 8th, 2015, 5:43am, deep_blue wrote:
I see your point, and even though I am not so sure about it I agree that we have compensation. But what if silver doesn't push us around any more than on 7s? Say, 8s m::Rg6 (or however that notation works  ) then sure, silver e is a bit decentralized but I also don't see how we immediately profit from it. e.g. 9g Dd2nnn Mc5n 9s Rf6x eb5e Ra5e and silver got plenty of time to start the counter attack against f3. And any other gold move doesn't really threaten to take over c6... |
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I don't like that 8s, but silver could pull once and stuff the c6 trap which is solid.
8g Ef5w Ee5w de6s Mc5s
8s eb5e mg5n Rg4n rh6s
9g Cc2n Rc1n Mc4w Ra2n
seems better for gold. Silver's elephant decentralization is punished.
I'm torn between this move and pulling the horse to b5 with Ma5.
Or my suggestion that came after the poll started which was too late to add, I guess.
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SilverMitt
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #31 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 2:34pm » |
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I think it goes to evaluation philosophy. I am rather fundamentally opposed to an attack around c6 that is EMH vs. EH, involves giving up a rabbit, and is susceptible to a swift MH counter around f3.
I do not mind advancing in a way that will keep silver from forcing our elephant west, which essentially means keeping our own camel secure for the time being. But I don't see a move that meets these criteria while creating enough compensation for the weak rabbit.
Meanwhile, flipping the camel seems a fairly natural move that works towards many of our goals. Anyway, I can accept browni's suggestions, as well, if chosen.
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deep_blue
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #32 on: Oct 10th, 2015, 5:09am » |
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Detailed vote report:
Allowed voters: 25
Actual votes cast: 9
Link to poll result: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_1e9ae9dd88643ff9
1. 7g Ef5w mg5w mf5s Ee5e (E::mf4)
2. 7g Mb3n Mb4n Mb5w hb6s (Ma5:h)
3. 7g Ef5w mg5w Ra4n Mb3n (Ee5:m Ra5 Mb4)
4. 7g mg5e Ef5e Ra2n Rb1n (E:mh5 Ra3 Rb2)
tied 5. 7g Mb3n Mb4n Ra4n Rg1n (Mb5 Ra5 Rg2)
tied 5. 7g Mb3n Mb4n Ra4n Rh2n (Mb5 Ra5 Rh3)
7. 7g Ef5w mg5w Ra2n Rb1n (Ee5:m Ra3 Rb2)
8. 7g Rg4w Rf4w Ef5w mg5w (Re4 Ee5:m)
9. 7g Rg4w Rf4w Ra4n Mb3n (Re4 Ra5 Mb4)
10. 7g Rg4w Rf4w Ra2n Rb1n (Re4 Ra3 Rb2)
| 1. | 2. | 3. | 4. | 5. | 6. | 7. | 8. | 9. | 10. | | 1. | - | 6 | 8 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9 | | 2. | 2 | - | 5 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 7 | | 3. | 1 | 3 | - | 4 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 7 | | 4. | 1 | 2 | 3 | - | 4 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 7 | | 5. | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | - | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | | 6 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | - | 4 | 6 | 5 | 5 | | 7 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | - | 4 | 4 | 5 | | 8. | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | - | 3 | 4 | | 9. | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | - | 3 | | 10. | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | - |
Voting rights had:
Algorias, arimaa_master, aurelian, browni3141, chessandgo, clyring, CraggyCornmeal, DeathCure, deep_blue, half_integer, Harren, harvestsnow, Hippo, Hufflepup, ikalyoncu, Knedlik, PerkofBR, phairland, RonWeasley, Samraku, SilverMitt, Skarn, supersamu, Therin8, Hippo, Heyckie.
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Hippo
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #33 on: Oct 17th, 2015, 3:52am » |
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Again I voted just once.
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deep_blue
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #34 on: Oct 17th, 2015, 6:28am » |
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on Oct 17th, 2015, 3:52am, Hippo wrote:
What do you mean? Have I lost you on my mailing list? Or did you simply not have the time to vote but could have? (in which case that's okay, I only name who could have voted not if they actually did, since thats otherwise hard to find out)
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chessandgo
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #35 on: Oct 18th, 2015, 3:09am » |
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on Oct 6th, 2015, 12:46pm, Hippo wrote:
Just a little note ...
7g Ef5w mg5w mf5s Ee5e
7s ed4e Rg4n mf4e ee4e
8g Mb3n Mb4n Mb5s hb6s
8s Hg3w mg4s hh4w rb7s
9g De2n Dd2e Mb4s hb5s seems to be an alternative to Rh5 |
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Oh, you're right (I forgot to asnwer that one).
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Hippo
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Re: 2015 Move 7
« Reply #36 on: Oct 29th, 2015, 8:47am » |
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on Oct 17th, 2015, 6:28am, deep_blue wrote:
What do you mean? Have I lost you on my mailing list? Or did you simply not have the time to vote but could have? (in which case that's okay, I only name who could have voted not if they actually did, since thats otherwise hard to find out) |
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I am twice in the wiki page and on all these announcements ...who is approved to vote ... seems originally you want to make the list alphabetically sorted than you resign on it ... leaving me as a mark of the changed decision 
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