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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #45 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 9:29am »
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on Apr 20th, 2011, 9:03am, mistre wrote:
Page is now updating!  Thanks Omar!
 
mistre vs Tuks on move 50!

 
That looks like a quite uncommon game!
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« Reply #46 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 10:22am »
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It's over - Tuks wins the first game of the 2011 postal tournament in 57 58 moves.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #47 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 10:36am »
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on Apr 20th, 2011, 10:22am, mistre wrote:
It's over - Tuks wins the first game of the 2011 postal tournament in 57 58 moves.

Wow, and I'm on about move 3 in my games.  At least I'm ahead of HarryPotter and Eresbos50!  (although hopefully not because they dropped out of the tournament...)
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #48 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 11:06am »
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i have vacation...and i hate seeing a game on my move Smiley
 
 i'll probably be done first with all my games, even before those with only 4 even though i have 14
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« Reply #49 on: Apr 20th, 2011, 2:49pm »
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Actually we were only on move 12 three days ago in which I took 4 days to decide my move.  Then the floodgates opened and I couldn't stop myself...
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #50 on: Apr 21st, 2011, 2:49pm »
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Counting on Tuks to slow down the pace of a postal game is usually not the way to go apparently Smiley
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #51 on: May 1st, 2011, 9:50am »
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I feel like a beginner again.
 
I used to use Flash Client V1 in previous Postal Mixers and I always found its Plan window very convenient.  That no longer works so I'm testing out all the other clients for their Plan features.
 
No client seems to have a functioning plan window.  How does everyone else plan ahead in the Postal Mixer?  In their head, on a physical board or some other way?  I've tried using the link to the game planner from the main page and then copying and pasting the move list but I don't have a send button on my plan window and can't really do much with it.  I tried using the Expert Mode in one game but that sent the real move not a test move.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #52 on: May 1st, 2011, 9:54am »
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on May 1st, 2011, 9:50am, Adanac wrote:
I feel like a beginner again.
 
I used to use Flash Client V1 in previous Postal Mixers and I always found its Plan window very convenient.  That no longer works so I'm testing out all the other clients for their Plan features.
 
No client seems to have a functioning plan window.  How does everyone else plan ahead in the Postal Mixer?  In their head, on a physical board or some other way?  I've tried using the link to the game planner from the main page and then copying and pasting the move list but I don't have a send button on my plan window and can't really do much with it.  I tried using the Expert Mode in one game but that sent the real move not a test move.

 
Have you tried this one?
 
http://arimaa.com/arimaa/games/planGame1.cgi
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #53 on: May 1st, 2011, 11:27am »
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Thanks, that plan window is working for me!
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« Reply #54 on: May 1st, 2011, 12:13pm »
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I was wondering about a statistic that I have seen in WCC discussions: rating based on the games in the tournament alone. I think it would be interesting to see this, to see who is outperforming their rating in postal games.Would it be possible to put that on the event games page? It would provide an interesting point about the difficulty of the games.
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« Reply #55 on: May 1st, 2011, 1:26pm »
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on May 1st, 2011, 12:13pm, 722caasi wrote:
I was wondering about a statistic that I have seen in WCC discussions: rating based on the games in the tournament alone. I think it would be interesting to see this, to see who is outperforming their rating in postal games.Would it be possible to put that on the event games page? It would provide an interesting point about the difficulty of the games.

 
http://home.scarlet.be/~woh/whr/whrp.htm
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #56 on: May 1st, 2011, 1:53pm »
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thats for all postals, i think caasi was referring to single tournament performance, like what fritz usually posts after the postal tourny is finished.
 
on another note, it seems that putting a price on the postal doesn't necessarily ensure finished games, two new players just lost all their games on time.
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #57 on: May 1st, 2011, 1:56pm »
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on May 1st, 2011, 1:26pm, Hippo wrote:
http://home.scarlet.be/~woh/whr/whrp.htm

Caution: Since these ratings are based on few games played far apart in time, they could swing wildly based on the results of a single event.  In fact, I'll bet someone in this list has moved over 200 points by tournament end.  I'll paste some current WHRP ratings here so we can compare later for an idea of the volatility:
 
Fritzlein 2772.9
chessandgo 2537.8
Nombril 2511.8
Adanac 2367.1
Hippo 2253.7
RonWeasley 2249.5
ChrisB 2174.4
ocmiente 2158.6
Tuks 2097.8
blue22 2040.7
mistre 2035.9
camelback 2007.1
omar 1990.5
novacat 1839.3
toby1kenobi 1749.8
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #58 on: May 14th, 2011, 4:55pm »
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mistre vs. briareus has a material balance you don't see every day.  Assuming that briareus takes the rabbit next, it will be DDCCR for MHH.  This is an interesting test for IdahoEv's thesis that we overvalue quality of pieces and undervalue quantity of pieces.  All of his "empirically optimized" material evaluators prefer to have the more numerous pieces, whereas all of the standard hand-tuned evaluators prefer to have the stronger pieces.
 
What material evaluation does briareus use?
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Re: 2011 Postal Mixer
« Reply #59 on: May 14th, 2011, 5:13pm »
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so its really 3 dogs for 4 cats and a rabbit, i usually like more pieces, but in this scenario, mistre will always have a major piece all over the board, all he has to theoretically do is attack to make the bot defend with E and then take over the rest f the board.
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