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An alternate piece set
« on: May 24th, 2011, 7:57pm »
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Hi all! I made an alternate piece set for computer interfaces. An example:
 

 
or maybe two:
 

 
I designed the set independently, and only after emailing Omar about it did I discover this forum and some relevant posts like Black and white silhouette pieces and Abstract set concept *facepalm*. However, I think that my efforts are different enough from previous results to warrant this separate post.
 
On the off chance someone is interested, I did a writeup on it, at my website, which I don't really want to transfer over to forum syntax because I already spent several days writing it out, and I am a lazy bum.
 
Individual pieces in SVG format are also on my site.
 
Thoughts? Biting criticisms? Bland indifference?
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #1 on: May 24th, 2011, 9:29pm »
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I think it is pretty sweet.  If I were publishing my book all over, I would want to go with diagrams in which the pieces were more distinguishable.  A cat and a dog look pretty similar, so for easily parsed diagrams, it's better to use some kind of cartoony caricature of each.  Your images have the great virtue of not being easily mistaken for each other, even at low resolution.  Thanks for sharing this.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #2 on: May 25th, 2011, 9:54am »
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I think they look very interesting, but the dog looks like a snake with the tongue sticking out which is a bit freaky for me.
 
At first I also thought the cat was the dog and vice versa.
 
I like your reference to TF2 Smiley
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #3 on: May 25th, 2011, 11:08am »
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I agree, dogs and cats need some more work.
Also - the rabbit tail could probably be improved (too furry now).
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #4 on: May 25th, 2011, 3:30pm »
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on May 25th, 2011, 11:08am, UruramTururam wrote:
I agree, dogs and cats need some more work.
Also - the rabbit tail could probably be improved (too furry now).

 
Rabbit is the only fully shown animal. What about only head with long ears?
 
But I like it Smiley.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #5 on: May 25th, 2011, 4:00pm »
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Nice work. Although  I guess I am too used to the current images, so when I look at the board using your images, its takes me little while to adjust. One of the things on my wish list for the JavaScript game client is to allow an option to change the board and piece set. If I ever get around to implementing that then the icons you've created could be used and people can select the set they want to play with.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #6 on: May 26th, 2011, 2:19pm »
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The horse looks very fast.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26th, 2011, 10:28pm »
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I like the camel the best.  He has a nest on his hump.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #8 on: May 26th, 2011, 11:45pm »
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on May 26th, 2011, 10:28pm, mistre wrote:
I like the camel the best.  He has a nest on his hump.

 
I think it's just fur.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #9 on: May 28th, 2011, 4:17am »
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@Fritzlein
 
Thanks! Nice to have compliments instead of biting criticism  Wink
 
@rbarreira, @UruramTururam
 
Yeah, I can see where you guys are coming from (I don't see the snake, though): do you have any thoughts on how the cat/dog can be improved/made more easily distinguishable? I'll try some stuff and update sometime in the near future, but more thoughts would be helpful.
 
@UruramTururam
 
Yeah, fluffy tail is too much embellishment in retrospect. I'll take it out in the next update.
 
@Hippo
 
I tried that, but I thought it looked kind of weird. And, rabbits are special pieces, having restricted moves and being the scoring element, so I don't think it's such a big deal if rabbits don't fit the schema exactly.
 
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That was the point, good thing it evokes what I was aiming for Tongue
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #10 on: May 28th, 2011, 5:25am »
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One more think ... in the black white variant I would be confused that gold is black ... and I dont understand the problems with distinguishing cat and dog.
It seems to me absolutely clear.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #11 on: May 28th, 2011, 10:37am »
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on May 28th, 2011, 5:25am, Hippo wrote:
... in the black white variant I would be confused that gold is black ...

Yes, for my book I adopted the convention that gold is white and silver is black.  I inherited it from Omar, who presumably inherited it from chess.  In some move lists on arimaa.com you will still find moves labeled 1w, 1b, 2w, 2b, etc., instead of 1g, 1s, 2g, 2s, etc.  Of course the color choice is arbitrary, but since the arbitrary choice was already made, it is best to go along with it.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #12 on: May 30th, 2011, 8:59pm »
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I like these icons a lot!  The horse does look fast!
 
I added them to my Arimaa client: https://launchpad.net/arimaa-client
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #13 on: May 31st, 2011, 6:43pm »
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Okay! Overview of the next update:
 

 

 
Changes:
 

  • Rabbit - All curves now, no fluffy tail
  • Cat - Small tweaks
  • Dog - Looks more like a dog, and less like a mutated diglet

 
Every piece also got center aligned, so propagating changes into different colors is no longer such a pain.
 
Also switched the Gold-Silver directions to match the originals, like suggested by @Hippo and @Fritzlein.
 
@rabbits - cool! Nice to know something I do is useful =P
 
I'll be updating my page soon with updated everything.
 
EDIT: page updated! Use the original link.
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Re: An alternate piece set
« Reply #14 on: Jun 1st, 2011, 1:05am »
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Cheesy Much better! I like it.
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