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Move 31
« on: May 20th, 2008, 3:13am »
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After Wednesday, I'll be traveling on vacation until the second week of June.  I don't know how much time or Internet access I will have while I'm on the road.  On this move it would not be good to delay the vote until I have weighed in.  Smiley
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #1 on: May 22nd, 2008, 4:26am »
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I sent chessandgo a message in our owl game that he has less than 3 days remaining on his clock.  Perhaps other reminders are prudent at this time.  Feel free.
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #2 on: May 22nd, 2008, 12:42pm »
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And chessandgo plays 31w Ha4e Hb4e Hc4n Hc5e.  Is it a weapon?  Or a target?
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #3 on: May 22nd, 2008, 1:02pm »
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There is no immediate threat created by that horse...
But there is a possibility of freezing our horse if it attacks and leaving the golden on free in the middle of the board.
 
At the first glance I don't see any play-worthy answer.
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #4 on: May 22nd, 2008, 2:49pm »
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Just to throw something out there to get things started,
 
31b hb5s Db3w hb4s XXX
 
The cat on c2 is threatened. This limits gold's choices, so it should be reasonble to analyze.
 
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #5 on: May 22nd, 2008, 8:41pm »
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The gold horse's main objective is probably to get to our dog on g2, which would undoubtedly happen were it not for the fact that the horse's absence from the western scene would make it easier for us to generate counterplay there so as to release our elephant.
 
I like jdb's move. It is the logical continuation of our original swarming idea. For a fourth step, I recommend putting something on f7 - probably the rabbit. Or we could delay that and instead advance the rabbit to b6. Perhaps that would be more prudent.
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #6 on: May 23rd, 2008, 12:41am »
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Yes, I think that our best answer is (already proposed):
 
31b hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s
 
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #7 on: May 23rd, 2008, 5:08am »
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Yes.  jdb has the logical continuation for silver.  Gold can't immediately take the h hostage because the r on c3, or the r on b7, can free it while the e can attack the central H.  From there we play it like a camel hostage.  If gold tries to take our h, silver wins the race by taking the H and returning to defend.
 
I looked at whether the fourth step should be rb7s to help the h on b3 escape, but it isn't needed.  rb7s would continue the swarm, but I think rf8s protects the r on g3 if we are pushing the central H to the f3 trap.
 
Also, the H has only three steps since the E must then go to c4.  If the H goes back to the west side, we can continue the swarm or consider pushing the cat back with our g2 dog.  Our advanced rabbit makes that hard to defend now.  With only three steps, the H can't get away from our e.
 
So I prefer hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s over hb5s Db3w hb4s rb7s.
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #8 on: May 23rd, 2008, 9:43am »
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I've found nothing better than hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s...
Move via consensus?
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #9 on: May 23rd, 2008, 10:07am »
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Three of us have stated a preference.  If we get 7, I will make the move.  Otherwise if there is no significant discussion, we will vote Monday.
 
This is a mob, so feel free to object and slow it down.
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #10 on: May 23rd, 2008, 10:21am »
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I support hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #11 on: May 23rd, 2008, 12:48pm »
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How does silver reply in this line?
 
31b hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s
32b Hd5e He5s De3s De2w
 
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #12 on: May 23rd, 2008, 4:49pm »
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on May 23rd, 2008, 12:48pm, jdb wrote:
How does silver reply in this line?
 
31b hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s
32b Hd5e He5s De3s De2w
 

 
How about ed3e He4n ee3n rb7s?
 
If the gold E goes after the h on b6, it evades while we trap the H.  Instead, I'd expect the E to help save the H, leaving the silver h guarding the open frame of the r on c3.  We then swarm it with our h being the biggest piece and the swarm frees it.
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #13 on: May 23rd, 2008, 6:44pm »
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I concur with 31b hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s.  
 
Does anyone else think that Chessandgo's move was a strategic blunder?  I don't see what he was trying to gain from that move and all future lines seem to favor us now.  But I have been wrong before and he is sneaky, so maybe he has a trick I am just not seeing...
 
One reason it might be a blunder is that he didn't make a move until his reserve was really low - maybe he couldn't find a good move.
 
If it does turn out to be a defining move of the game, we will have to reconsider our dog charge as being beneficial as that might be one of the reasons that chessandgo decided to move his Horse east.
 
 
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Re: Move 31
« Reply #14 on: May 23rd, 2008, 7:37pm »
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on May 23rd, 2008, 4:49pm, RonWeasley wrote:

 
How about ed3e He4n ee3n rb7s?
 
If the gold E goes after the h on b6, it evades while we trap the H.  Instead, I'd expect the E to help save the H, leaving the silver h guarding the open frame of the r on c3.  We then swarm it with our h being the biggest piece and the swarm frees it.

 
31b hb5s Db3w hb4s rf8s  
32w Hd5e He5s De3s De2w  
32b ed3e He4n ee3n rb7s
33w Ed4w Ec4w Eb4n hb3n rc3x
 
I'm not sure who is ahead now. After the horses are exchanged, silver can go after the g3 cat?  
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