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RonWeasley
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #45 on: Jun 13th, 2011, 8:07am » |
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on Jun 11th, 2011, 8:13pm, mistre wrote:
If this ends up being the case, I will volunteer my services as the coordinator of the Mob. I will need a crash course on the other aspects of wizardry from the head wizard at Hogwarts however. Go Mob! Go USA!
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The mechanical aspects of coordinator are easy to explain. Coordinator account, voting site, moderator status in forum. I'll do this when we start. Even during the match, I can answer generic questions from either moderator. I will try to share my ways of prompting final comments. A useful spell like, "Let's make our final comments by Wednesday evening and plan to begin voting Thursday." This spell usually works even if you don't carry a wand.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #46 on: Jun 13th, 2011, 1:18pm » |
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Nice idea! I fear won't have much time to devote to arimaa in the next few months, but I'll try to chime in as often as possible 
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #47 on: Jun 13th, 2011, 10:17pm » |
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I'm in...but probably need finish a few postal mixer games before I will be able to contribute as much discussion as I did at the end of the last Mob game.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #48 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 12:01am » |
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If it turns out that the current version of the forum is unable to provide us with venues restricted by groups (and Omar is unwilling or unable to upgrade the version), which option would people prefer: Having the discussion here with only a gentlemen's agreement not to look at the other team's discussion, or try to find a solution on another domain with some security?
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #49 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 3:51am » |
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gentlemen's agreement... of course
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Swynndla
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #50 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 5:37am » |
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(As I've already stated) I like the gentle-person's agreement. It's not that I think we can trust each other, it's just that I think if someone really wants to look at the other side, then that's up to them, even if I wouldn't do it myself. Likewise, if someone from the opposition was spying on my team, then it wouldn't worry me, as that's up to them (and who's to say I'm right anyway?). It's hard to explain what I mean. In Hogwarts, Slytherin weren't banned, but were an equal quarter.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #51 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 5:53am » |
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The Mob vs. The One relied on the trustworthiness of only one person, The One, who was always a respected and mature member of the Arimaa community. However in this case it would rely on the trustworthiness of all members of both teams. And only one of those people needs temptation to get the better of them to spoil the party. A certain cautionary tale from the AWL springs to mind.
By the way, I would also like to take part, although perhaps in practice I will only be peripherally involved.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #52 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 6:27am » |
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Gentleman's agreement - especially because I want to play the board not the opponent - thus finding the best move we will be able to come up apart from the fact if somebody spying us or not.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #53 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 8:41am » |
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on Jun 14th, 2011, 6:27am, arimaa_master wrote:| Gentleman's agreement - especially because I want to play the board not the opponent - thus finding the best move we will be able to come up apart from the fact if somebody spying us or not. |
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But even when we playing board, not the opponent, I would prefer to chose only one team to play for  .
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RonWeasley
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #54 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 4:29pm » |
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Gentlemuggle's agreement should work. Imagine the reaction of one's own team members if your post begins, "I saw in the other team's analysis that..."
You'd be flamed faster than a flatulent phoenix.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #55 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 4:31pm » |
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on Jun 14th, 2011, 4:29pm, RonWeasley wrote:Gentlemuggle's agreement should work. Imagine the reaction of one's own team members if your post begins, "I saw in the other team's analysis that..."
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But it can just as easily begin with "they're probably expecting us to... " or "what if they replied ... to that?" ?
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #56 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 5:16pm » |
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on Jun 14th, 2011, 4:31pm, rbarreira wrote:| But it can just as easily begin with "they're probably expecting us to... " or "what if they replied ... to that?" ? |
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Indeed, the purpose of cheating in the context would less likely be a desire to win the game, and more likely a desire to appear smart. "Your move suggestion might look good superficially, but it can be refuted by X, which I analyzed extensively." Anyone who is going to transgress community norms by reading the other team's discussion is unlikely to freely admit that their "extensive analysis" consisted of peeking.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #58 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 6:00pm » |
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on Jun 14th, 2011, 5:16pm, Fritzlein wrote:
Indeed, the purpose of cheating in the context would less likely be a desire to win the game, and more likely a desire to appear smart. |
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My point is "so what?" .. I'm not trying to be argumentative here, rather it's what I was trying to say previously, summed up in two words. So what if someone fancies the idea of appearing smarter than they are (or maybe more that they appear that they understand how the other side is thinking)? It's only a game.
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Re: TheMob vs TheGang
« Reply #59 on: Jun 15th, 2011, 1:47am » |
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I expect phase of "move generation" without explanation why. And cheater "copying moves from the other thread would be hardly detected in this phase.
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