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Fritzlein
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #30 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 10:26pm » |
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 10:15pm, IdahoEv wrote:| If you're worried, then don't announce your win until 11:55pm on April 30th. |
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...and remember it is Pacific time zone 
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chessandgo
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #31 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 10:34pm » |
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With all the respect I have for you Fritz, you should go hunting for bigger bots 
Jean
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chessandgo
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #32 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 10:57pm » |
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Ok, as I am not after Idaho's money, I won't do the "hide your game" technique and hopefully help you spare your time with 1300 bots ...
I claim a win vs bot_Bomb2005P1 (1703 US 1/1/100/5/0) in game 29242.
Will there be any bot to resist the big guys ? 
Have fun
Jean
PS : it was quite long 113 moves, but I believe you'll all do much better ...
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IdahoEv
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #33 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 11:16pm » |
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I haven't verified that the whole game is legit, but chessandgo's game 29242 would seem to disprove Fritz' contention that nobody will beat anything harder than ArimaaScore.
I have to say, I'm impressed. I didn't think anyone would get that high, let alone on the first day!
Good job, man...
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #34 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 11:17pm » |
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IdahoEv, I suggest you add to your rules that you must have at least one R left alive at the end of the game. Otherwise, it will be possible to get very cheap wins by immobilization against Clueless2006, since it thinks it has won after all of its opponents' Rs are dead as was the case in the CC.
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #35 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 12:43am » |
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 10:57pm, chessandgo wrote:| I claim a win vs bot_Bomb2005P1 (1703 US 1/1/100/5/0) in game 29242. |
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Well done Jean!
I agree with Ryan's comments too, the rules should be changed (regarding the rabbits).
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #36 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 2:25am » |
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 5:34pm, IdahoEv wrote:| 3)Any win by goal or immobilization (i.e. not repetition or timeout) |
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This should be put in the official rules too, instead of just in the forum.
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IdahoEv
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #37 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 3:16am » |
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on Apr 21st, 2006, 2:25am, Swynndla wrote:| This should be put in the official rules too, instead of just in the forum. |
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It's there. Look again.
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #38 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 3:20am » |
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 11:17pm, Ryan_Cable wrote:| IdahoEv, I suggest you add to your rules that you must have at least one R left alive at the end of the game. |
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Done! Thanks for the suggestion. (I don't yet know of these bot deficiencies, so I must defer to the experts).
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #39 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 5:01am » |
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on Apr 21st, 2006, 3:16am, IdahoEv wrote:
Ahhhh ... right you are
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Fritzlein
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #40 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 6:29am » |
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 10:34pm, chessandgo wrote:| With all the respect I have for you Fritz, you should go hunting for bigger bots |
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Well done against BombP1, Jean. Like IdahoEv, I didn't think this would happen within the challenge, never mind within 24 hours. Maybe Swynndla isn't so crazy to be going straight for the top bot! If he manages to do in the full Bomb, the challenge will be busted almost before it gets started. It seems I always overestimate the difficulty of botbashing, and underestimate human resourcefulness (or bot dumbness). In the case of beating the full Bomb, my excuse will be that I always think in terms of material win, rather than immobilization or direct goal. I forget about the literal winning criterion, and get hung up on my favorite means to the end.
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #41 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 8:45am » |
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Yes I think too that Nathan was right trying to go for Bomb ... In a messy position with goal threats and opposite traps controlled the 3 steps handicap looks quite big, even vs the bots, but in a "drag opponents pieces" contest I'm not sure bots have their chance, even with the extra step ...
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #42 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 8:53am » |
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I claim a win vs bot_bomb2005fast in Game Number: 38182
Swynndla, Game 38182, 46 moves as Gold.
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #43 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 11:00am » |
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Wow ! well done Nathan ! 
Here we are ... only BombCC left, right ??
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #44 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 12:00pm » |
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I believe Swynndla actually means game 29268. The counter for active games is not the same as the counter for recorded games because some games are started but never played.
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